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          16 hours ago

          don’t feed the troll, that comment makes it clear they have zero understanding of what Linux is if they generalize it like it is one thing.

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            It is one thing. FreeBSD and NetBSD are not one thing. Linux is one thing.

            And I meant Linux, not distributions and userlands, so you’re the troll here.

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                15 hours ago

                Yes, and the same can be said about Windows NT, yet it’s called one thing. Honestly I think I’m getting tired of American intelligence.

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              15 hours ago

              So I’m curious. If you mean the Linux kernel, when and how do you think it went off down the wrong path?

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                14 hours ago

                Around year 1999. No particular reason, just it seems to have gained recognition and approval among the big fish then.

                If by “when” you mean analytically, then when it stopped being “a hobby project started by a Finnish student with participation of volunteers from all around the world” and became one of the houses of power.

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                  Oh. It’s you again. Good to see your shallow takes haven’t changed.

                  Can’t you have the foresight to actually read and research why things like the FOSS projects we rely on are validated? Linux is owned by no one, and is used by everyone who wants to. Plain and simple. More adoption and more contributors means a better experience for the end user and the developer.

                  Corporate users are a feature, not a bug, and if anything, their adoption does more to cement the success of the project more than anything else. Plus, the Linux kernel can be wrapped into many different distros designed for transparency, why not pick your favorite one, instead of the “corporate standard”?

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                    Oh. It’s you again. Good to see your shallow takes haven’t changed.

                    I don’t remember you, but I get Dunning-Krueger vibes from things you write which seem to be typical “Linux as a success story” quotes without insight.

                    Can’t you have the foresight to actually read and research

                    I prefer to observe them in the wild. I mean, that is what’s called research, but it strongly seems that you by research mean something else.

                    why things like the FOSS projects we rely on are validated? Linux is owned by no one, and is used by everyone who wants to.

                    This is as fallacious as “scientific communism” and for the same reason. Because there are dimensions of this where the general consensus of those actually applying resources is neutrality, where it works as you say, and there are dimensions where it’s not.

                    Or you might read that Karl Popper’s article on the blind zones of dialectics. Corporate participation in a big common open project works similarly to dialectics.

                    Corporate users are a feature, not a bug, and if anything, their adoption does more to cement the success of the project more than anything else.

                    Having a stronger Prussia did nothing of the sort for the HRE, and having Ustinov as minister of defense with all his power did nothing of the sort for the USSR, and Google did nothing of the sort for the Web.

                    But I prefer to live this through with many things today, rather than try to fix it to my limited ability.

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          15 hours ago

          It’s an enormous centralized project upon which much of the world depends.

          And if you think you can find an intentionally put backdoor in a buttfuckazillion lines of code without even looking, purely by intuition or trusting some random security specialists from the news, then I think you’ve lost the way.

          It’s too complex and runs on too complex hardware. Honestly if we are going to look at any FOSS project with such hope, it should become a democracy first. A friendly reminder - Linux is a benevolent dictatorship, funded by corporations.

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              14 hours ago

              People were doing complex surgeries, making fighter jets, submarines and spaceships without what you seem to call a computer.

              Also I can’t return to being an American because I’ve never been one.

              And C64 is a computer, Radio-86RK is a computer, Amiga 500 is a very good computer.

              Supersonic passenger planes have been built, before personal computers becoming anything common, but aren’t operated today.

              And you most likely don’t live in a more than 60 story building, despite such being built.

              And deliberately reducing your comfort is sometimes valuable, not everything should be entertainment.