• Saledovil@sh.itjust.works
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      14 hours ago

      Maybe. Could also be that humans never invent anything that comes close to a biological brain. Either because we simply aren’t smart enough, or because civilization regresses before we get there. And there’s several trends going on currently which could cause civilization to regress. For example, climate change and declining birth rates (While we could set up an economic system that can deal with a shrinking and aging population, our current one cannot).

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            2 hours ago

            Why are they? Fewer people, fewer mouths to feed, more value on labor, more natural resources and real estate for the rest of us.

            We cant grow forever. Dropping total population in the most ethical way then keeping things steady seems like the most nonviolent cool way to do this.

            Tor fucks sake there’s like ten billion people we could keep everything we need going, easily, with half that.

            Anf imagibe if we actually valuee people instead of treating them like disposable garbage to throw away in poverty and wars! Wouldn’t that be cool?

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        8 hours ago

        Wait, since when population is shrinking? And since when it’s a bad thing too?

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          3 hours ago

          It’s not shrinking yet, the birth rate is declining, and the world population is projected to start declining 2050.

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          4 hours ago

          Technically there should be a ratio of young to old to take care of all of the elderly, but IMO fuck’em it wasn’t the young’s choice to be born and suffer for the sake of the old.

          Lower population will make resource allocation easier and improve quality of life, and obviously is necessary to prevent further environmental damage. There will be momentary suffering for a brighter future.

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          8 hours ago

          I don’t think it is shrinking globally, yet. But, some countries (e.g. South Korea) are in dire situations due to shrinking and aging population already.

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            4 hours ago

            Might be bad now but it leads to a better future. Infinite growth was always impossible, this is just the result of decades of mismanagement.

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              2 hours ago

              The future for S. Korea looks bleak, not better.

              I agree that infinite growth was always impossible, but in some countries birth rate is well below replacement rate (if they matched, population would be stable, not growing), and in many birth rate + immigration rate is also below replacement rate – we are failing not at growth, but “mere” stability.

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                41 minutes ago

                Idgaf about replacement rate. I don’t want the old to be replaced. I want the economy to get smaller and for the wealth to be better distributed.

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            8 hours ago

            But it’s mostly caused by social issues, imo it is nowhere near being a real problem

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              7 hours ago

              I agree with your premise, but I don’t think it implies your conclusion, which I disagree with.