Every single one of you idiots is fine with paying extra to access a free service. VPN! VPN! Gotta have a VPN to fool everyone!
You didn’t need a VPN before, because religious nazis have to control every single fucking thing. Control that porn! Control that “R” rated movie! Control those words in songs! Control the words in books! All religious movements.
Stop supporting religions, you stupid fucks. Requring a VPN is just saying that poor people don’t get free porn, because they can’t afford a VPN. Which is yet another thing that religious dickheads do.
There is a difference between intellectual intelligence and emotional. People have needs that intellectual responses don’t satisfy such as “what happens to us after death?”, “how do I deal with the loss of a loved one?”, “does anyone care about me?”, “is there more to the universe than just random chance?”, etc.
I get that. And believies can’t be based on reason. They’re just there. But it does generally require the ignoring of facts about the world around us. Like the same thing happens after death as before birth. You deal with loss by grieving. I don’t think they’re stupid, just regularly ignoring the simple answers to those questions.
No, the problem is accepting uncritically anything that comes from a self-defined leader, and, even in the absence of that, accepting that any critical input in a social system should come from people that have compromised on logic and reason at some level.
I was with you until the last sentence. As someone who is not religious in the slightest, I have no problem with people being religious as long as it’s not forced in me.
Pretty much a default that religion, given the opportunity, will seek to push its rules and values on others. Doesn’t matter if it’s a medicine man or someone sitting on the local school board. I don’t have a problem with religious people in principle either, the problem is that even if you do meet a decent couple of people who appear to keep their religion to themselves there’s hundreds of thousands in their “club” that are going to fuck with things. Kinda like being in the republican party - even if they’re decent people, aren’t bootlickers, aren’t homophobes, etc… they still vote for, support, and associate with a group that does a lot of shitty things.
Nope, garbage shit for assholes who want to control idiots. And yes it is being forced on you, that’s how Christian national terrorism works, if you don’t think it is, I’m sorry, but you’re also an idiot
My issue is that the ones who aren’t bothering you with it are essentially not doing so because they know other people in their group are already handling that for them. Religions, especially those you named, come with a mandate to spread themselves and force others to comply with their standards.
It’s kind of like a really selfish kid who would steal all your lunch every day, but he’s not strong enough to do so, so instead he’s just nice and kind and smiles at you and lets you be. But if he ever gets strong enough, he’ll start taking your lunch every single day forever.
The religious people who aren’t forcing it down your throat either (1) think someone else is doing it for them so they don’t have to, or (2) don’t think they could get away with it without being counterproductive to their cause, and are waiting for a more opportune moment.
These are people who believe that they factually know what constitutes objective good. Imagine if raping children was legal and you knew your neighbor was raping children. You might just leave him alone about it because, what can you do? But the moment you have an opportunity to vote for a law to outlaw it, the moment you have a chance to kill him and get away with it, etc. you’ll try to act against him. Your polite indifference to him is a lie, because from your perspective he is committing an absolute and unforgivable wrongdoing that MUST be stopped. This is how religious people are to you, except for instead of it being about reasonable things like raping children, it’s about stupid bullshit that makes no sense, like the fact you don’t pray every day at a certain time, or the fact that you’re attracted to the same sex, or the fact that you don’t want the ten commandments posted in schools.
The problem is that by its very existence and prevalence you have to contend with religion’s bullshit effecting your life.
So honestly you should be against people being religious and try and discourage it. Though yeah its not super helpful to look at individual religious people and hate them openly. That’s a good way to just harden them right back against you.
There is an important distinction between being religious and supporting organized churches. ‘Religious people’ aren’t any more of a threat to you than gay people are. Churches, particularly the Catholic Church in Christianity, that don’t even follow their religion’s teachings, are the problem.
You don’t need an organized group to have people who compromised on logic forcing their views on others.
Sure, an organized group can be more efficient, but it is also more visible as a threat.
The solution to the root cause of this (asshole politicians) and all the other fucked up shit going on, is to vote. Vote for a candidate that won’t do shit like this. If you want to do extra, donate time or some money to a candidate you like.
Most people are woefully unprepared to shop for a VPN from a reputable provider, meaning most people are going to end up subjected to even more surveillance and potentially attacks on their devices.
Most people also are not prepared to manage when to and not-to use it, so will get slower internet all of the time.
This will create lists of VPN users at both the ISPs and the VPN companies that will be usable by later christo-fascist governments.
This will ultimately get laws passed against consumer-facing VPN services, making it harder for people to protect themselves from other attacks.
More honey-pot VPN services will start up to support that list-gathering for future christo-fascist governments looking to build dossiers on as many people as possible.
I could go on and on. And nothing about the above has anything to do with porn.
Every single one of you idiots is fine with paying extra to access a free service. VPN! VPN! Gotta have a VPN to fool everyone!
You didn’t need a VPN before, because religious nazis have to control every single fucking thing. Control that porn! Control that “R” rated movie! Control those words in songs! Control the words in books! All religious movements.
Stop supporting religions, you stupid fucks. Requring a VPN is just saying that poor people don’t get free porn, because they can’t afford a VPN. Which is yet another thing that religious dickheads do.
If you’re religious - FUCK YOU!
Finally, I found another one like me. Prepare for a shower of shit in the comments, as most people here defend religion strenously.
The issue isn’t being religious, it is demanding everyone else be too.
It kind of is to some extent. Believing stories like this requires a certain degree of ignorance.
There is a difference between intellectual intelligence and emotional. People have needs that intellectual responses don’t satisfy such as “what happens to us after death?”, “how do I deal with the loss of a loved one?”, “does anyone care about me?”, “is there more to the universe than just random chance?”, etc.
I get that. And believies can’t be based on reason. They’re just there. But it does generally require the ignoring of facts about the world around us. Like the same thing happens after death as before birth. You deal with loss by grieving. I don’t think they’re stupid, just regularly ignoring the simple answers to those questions.
Why do you think a good chunk of these people wear red hats?
But they gotta save us from eternal damnation, it’s for our own good, we don’t know any better (/s if it’s really needed)
Anyone else believing differently plants a seed of doubt in their minds that drives them mad.
I wish! I would be happy to be their Lovecraftian abyss.
No, the problem is accepting uncritically anything that comes from a self-defined leader, and, even in the absence of that, accepting that any critical input in a social system should come from people that have compromised on logic and reason at some level.
My friend who was previously more etheist, has been attending church. We have lost another soul guys.
I was with you until the last sentence. As someone who is not religious in the slightest, I have no problem with people being religious as long as it’s not forced in me.
Pretty much a default that religion, given the opportunity, will seek to push its rules and values on others. Doesn’t matter if it’s a medicine man or someone sitting on the local school board. I don’t have a problem with religious people in principle either, the problem is that even if you do meet a decent couple of people who appear to keep their religion to themselves there’s hundreds of thousands in their “club” that are going to fuck with things. Kinda like being in the republican party - even if they’re decent people, aren’t bootlickers, aren’t homophobes, etc… they still vote for, support, and associate with a group that does a lot of shitty things.
Religions have yet to prove to me they are not just another tribal group that wants control with extra steps.
Ok? Doesn’t change what I said.
I’m saying there isn’t a religion that doesn’t force it’s shit on people.
So basically you’re fine with supporting things that hurt others just so long as you’re left alone.
Nope, garbage shit for assholes who want to control idiots. And yes it is being forced on you, that’s how Christian national terrorism works, if you don’t think it is, I’m sorry, but you’re also an idiot
Alright buddy, guess I’m an idiot. I know many people who are religious and don’t bother me with what they believe, Christian, Muslim, Jewish…
My issue is that the ones who aren’t bothering you with it are essentially not doing so because they know other people in their group are already handling that for them. Religions, especially those you named, come with a mandate to spread themselves and force others to comply with their standards.
It’s kind of like a really selfish kid who would steal all your lunch every day, but he’s not strong enough to do so, so instead he’s just nice and kind and smiles at you and lets you be. But if he ever gets strong enough, he’ll start taking your lunch every single day forever.
The religious people who aren’t forcing it down your throat either (1) think someone else is doing it for them so they don’t have to, or (2) don’t think they could get away with it without being counterproductive to their cause, and are waiting for a more opportune moment.
These are people who believe that they factually know what constitutes objective good. Imagine if raping children was legal and you knew your neighbor was raping children. You might just leave him alone about it because, what can you do? But the moment you have an opportunity to vote for a law to outlaw it, the moment you have a chance to kill him and get away with it, etc. you’ll try to act against him. Your polite indifference to him is a lie, because from your perspective he is committing an absolute and unforgivable wrongdoing that MUST be stopped. This is how religious people are to you, except for instead of it being about reasonable things like raping children, it’s about stupid bullshit that makes no sense, like the fact you don’t pray every day at a certain time, or the fact that you’re attracted to the same sex, or the fact that you don’t want the ten commandments posted in schools.
The problem is that by its very existence and prevalence you have to contend with religion’s bullshit effecting your life.
So honestly you should be against people being religious and try and discourage it. Though yeah its not super helpful to look at individual religious people and hate them openly. That’s a good way to just harden them right back against you.
There is an important distinction between being religious and supporting organized churches. ‘Religious people’ aren’t any more of a threat to you than gay people are. Churches, particularly the Catholic Church in Christianity, that don’t even follow their religion’s teachings, are the problem.
You don’t need an organized group to have people who compromised on logic forcing their views on others. Sure, an organized group can be more efficient, but it is also more visible as a threat.
The solution to the root cause of this (asshole politicians) and all the other fucked up shit going on, is to vote. Vote for a candidate that won’t do shit like this. If you want to do extra, donate time or some money to a candidate you like.
The big downsides are:
I could go on and on. And nothing about the above has anything to do with porn.
I just keep my VPN on at all times and I’ve seen no noticable lag. My Steam download speeds are still regularly 500mb+/sec.
I’m sure it would be marginally faster without it, but the hit is so small that I see no reason to ever turn it off.
Yes, that’s probably the least-problem of my points. Really more of an issue for poor VPN providers, which people will end up with due to 3.
proton vpn
r/atheism is that way my dude
What? You don’t have to be atheist to be against organized religions.