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Lee Duna@lemmy.nz to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 days ago

AI data centers face increasing complaints about inaudible but 'felt' infrasound — citizens complain high- and low-frequency sounds do not register on decibel meters but cause adverse health effects

www.tomshardware.com

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AI data centers face increasing complaints about inaudible but 'felt' infrasound — citizens complain high- and low-frequency sounds do not register on decibel meters but cause adverse health effects

www.tomshardware.com

Lee Duna@lemmy.nz to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 days ago
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Data centers are hurting the ears of the people living around them.
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    Electromagnetic radiation from power lines linked to increased leukemia risk in mice

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      Here is the actual study https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0079610724001160?via=ihub

      Notably study detail:s say it was funded by whack jobs. Notably mice are exposed to much stronger fields than you are in your home or work unless you literally have a high tension line running through your kitchen by the coffee maker on its way to power the adjacent factory.

      It does not in any way suggest that the EM radiation people are exposed to has any effect on them.

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        There is limited evidence in humans for the carcinogenicity of 50 Hz magnetic fields in relation to childhood leukaemia (from epidemiological studies). This is why IARC classified them in group 2B, as possibly carcinogenic to humans. This is from the website that funded the study against the “whack jobs”.

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          Possible. Based on an extremely liberal criteria intended to leave open any possibility for research for safety’s sake, regardless of how implausible it may be.

          Epidemiological research in this case is unable to destinguish health effects due to the miriad of socioeconomic factors that lead people to live in undesirable properties extremely close to high tension power lines.

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            Well I’m glad we’ve gone from no possibility whack jobs to scientific investigation for safety sake.

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              If the effect were meaningful it should be possible to establish it. What it means is that the effect is probably nothing. The burden of proof is on those asserting there is an effect and it hasn’t been met. The problem is of course that we are dealing with the assertion that there is a possibility of a too small to measure increase in one disease in the entire pop whereas the EMF crowd is busy asserting their is a massive effect in a small population of users.

              The first asks should we spend more money investigating the complex intersection of technology and biology on the off chance something useful is found the answer for which is almost always yes and the second is looking for real harm for which is being done by their hallucinations to which the answer is pretty obviously to medicate their schizophrenia rather than investigate what the voices are telling them.

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                If the effect were meaningful it should be possible to establish it

                Effects have been established in mice. Do we want to risk lives by establishing it in humans, or just recommend that people not live close to high voltage lines.

                EMFs are very dangerous. Particularly at the gamma end of the spectrum.

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      Good thing I’m not a Mouse. And I say that kind of as a joke because if you look at the findings it didn’t increase the odds in rats. So does it effect humans or is it because mice are small and rats are big enough to not be effected. Or do rats have something else going on? Or is it because mice have short lifespans. Just because something effects mice does not mean it effects other animals.

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        If you mutate rats then they start training turtles ninja skills.

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      Garbage article. Follow the link to a meta analysis that shows EM has no effect in rats. mouse effect: one poorly done paper.

      No, power lines do not cause disease.

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        There is limited evidence in humans for the carcinogenicity of 50 Hz magnetic fields in relation to childhood leukaemia (from epidemiological studies). This is why IARC classified them in group 2B, as possibly carcinogenic to humans

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