Google is making it bad enough already, who wants another big layer of badbad?
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I wonder what’s getting worse this time. I’ve regretted the last several updates.
Okay, greater control over the quick settings menu sounds nice actually. That was one of my least favourite changes of the last update. Maybe I don’t resist this one quite so hard.
I just read the update list. You can have an AI assistant answer your incoming calls and have the AI questioning the caller who they are and why they have called… I will hang up immediately if the phone is answered by AI. Such a weird feature.
Might be useful for spam/robocalls. Not sure if having a personal AI use my phone to answer to another AI (and maybe accidentally giving up my personal data or signing my up for some scam service) is the right solution but if it worked really well I could potentially see the appeal
Where do you find changelogs? The updates always say something generic like ‘improved security’, which is really annoying. I can’t find any list of what specifically has changed
My phone already has that feature, it’s called voicemail. It’s already answering all my calls.
Unfortunately, “several” means they pump out so many phones a year… it doesn’t mean Galaxy S flagships more than a couple years old are getting the update.
That’s one thing that’s always fucked me off about Android. The hardware is capable, but after a year or two of updates, they just cut you off, expecting you to buy another one. And that’s fine if, for all the data collection and for how far behind iPhones they are in terms of performance (sorry, I know that’s a sore spot among Android enthusiasts… but the numbers do not lie), you were paying much less for them. But for iPhone prices, if you can’t expect iPhone performance, you should be able to expect a longer period of support. They say they offer 6 or 7 years of updates, but they aren’t going that far back. My own Samsung phone is a Galaxy S10 from 2019, or 7 years ago. Let’s see it get the update. But they won’t do it. They could — the phone is certainly capable enough — we’ve all (iPhone users included, and perhaps especially) been sold on this lie that you need the newest phone every year. It’s horse shit. The S10 is still a capable phone, and I imagine its iPhone contemporary is, too. (And I imagine that iPhone is still being updated, as it should be.) But they won’t, because they just want you to keep buying them.
Android users deserve better.
At least the value depreciates faster than iPhones, so you can get a gently used one from a year or two prior for a whole lot less than an iPhone from the same year. Like for example a Galaxy S24 vs an iPhone 15. Or an S23 vs an iPhone 14 (except then you don’t get USB-C, so I wouldn’t recommend it, the hassle of getting Lightning cables has to be factored in).
Nowadays 7 years of updates means like 2-3 years of “feature” updates and the rest is security updates, annoyingly not the same thing as with Apple devices, better than just 2 years of feature updates but it does feel a bit misleading
Galaxy S9+ here. Been getting alerts for months from various apps that I need to essentially get a new phone because major updates have ended for this device. It’s such bullshit. Phone manufacturers should cover their products for 10 years or more. They just cheap out and want you to buy buy buy, consume consume consume.
The next refurbed phone I get, I hope to find one pre-2022, before they started getting packed to the gills with AI bullshit.
S8 and S9 were good. I liked my S3, but the capacitive buttons outlived their usefulness and should have been gone way before the S8. S7 seriously tempted me, but that was the year I switched to iPhone (not that the 6s’s home button was any better; it wasn’t).
My wife has an S22 and it’s nagging her to upgrade. I told her to come to Apple. She won’t. Maybe we can find a deal on an S24.
Google will always try too screw over consumers when they can make even a dime more off of a product. This is not a bug but a feature – for the company.
Consider degoogling. There are a lot of alternatives, albeit with some slight drawbacks. Everyone should consider for themselves whether these drawbacks are bad enough to stay with a company that treats you as the product, not as the customer.
You’re preaching to the choir on that one. I mainly use Apple stuff — I feel like, between Apple, Microsoft, and Google, Apple is the least evil. Some disagree. I always liked Macs though, and once GPU prices started going up… I bought one. Pretty good deal if you’re willing to give up PC gaming. But I also realise Apple isn’t that much better than the others, if they are at all. Linux is the real winner here. If I didn’t need a whole new computer, I probably would have switched to Linux.
Of course most people dislike the big tech companies here, but I don’t fully agree. When a comment talks about what Android users deserve not everyone is getting the message yet.
Of course they deserve better, but they will never ever get it, because the system is not for them. I think people still really need to understand that they are considered more a product than a customer.
There are multiple reasons I moved from Android to iPhone but this was by far the biggest factor that motivated me to switch. I’ve never had a Samsung device but I’ve had years upon years of numerous other Android phones and the update support for all of them has been atrocious. I got used to receiving 1 single OS update if I was lucky and maybe a few years of security updates and that was it. The few updates they did get were usually at least a year behind the Android update cycle if not more, and then they really fell behind once support stopped.
Since then I’ve had several iPhones that I’ve owned and then sold second hand and they’ve all had constant OS and security updates the entire time. I don’t have strong feelings towards iPhones one way or another, but I can say for certain that it has never felt like my device has been abandoned.
Apple is in the same business model. They also kill their phones via software. They just captured the used market through various means so they get money off you more consistently. People think that trade in with credit options for a new phone every two years is such a great idea. Do the math, it’s actually a subscription model, you don’t own your iPhone, yet you’ll always pay more than what the hardware is worth.
Apple has their faults but they historically have supported their devices for significantly longer than most Android phone manufacturers. Like I said in my last message, some of the Android phones I had only ever received one OS update and it was usually for an outdated version anyway.
I didn’t contradict that notion. Apple devices are supported for longer than Android. But, again, it is an attempt to hook new people into a subscription-adjacent model. The pressure and nagging to change to a new phone every two years is still there, and they also kill software support to devices that are still functional.
