• NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    5 days ago

    The majority of datacenters and datacenter power consumption are not for AI. Before AI no one cared about datacenters. Still no one cares about datacenters that already existed and make up the majority of datacenters. I don’t understand it. Is this just manufactured outrage?

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      3 hours ago

      Data centers went from the tens of megawatts range to the gigawatts range because they’re being stuffed with increasingly power hungry AI chips at great density, and they’re also building larger ones. Some of the planned data centers are going to crack 10 gigawatts each. The record electricity consumption rate for my entire country of ~1.3 million people is 1.6 gigawatts in the winter. That includes industry AND multiple non-AI data centers.

      So now everyone else has to pay more for electricity in the affected communities, as the demand’s gone up. And water’s going to be scarcer. And they’re literally piping out hot steam at you in already hot areas, to the point that some neighborhoods might become unlivable due to the increased wet bulb temperature.

      Luckily, yes, some of the bigger ones are planning on-site gas power plants (and a little bit of solar), but then you’re left asking yourself if more fossil fuel based generation is much better than just driving everyone’s fees up through the grid. It doesn’t drive our electricity costs up, but it’s still bad for the climate.

      • NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        5 days ago

        What do you want me to put together? Why don’t you just come out and say what you mean instead of beating around the bush?

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      4 days ago

      People hate data centers because they are being forced into our communities without our consent. Consent. Consent.consent

      • NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        4 days ago

        Most datacenters are not in urban communities they are in industrial zones.

        You also don’t need the consent of other people to build things on land you own. Get out of here with this shit.