MentalEdge

That’s not what I’m saying.

Obviously not everyone needs to code. Once I write a bot, it could potentially be used by anyone.

Only a small percentage of mods need to also be developers. But since that group isn’t big enough yet, the solution is growth.

Not asking the platform devs to do even more. They too, are volunteers.

I’m not against any of that.

What I disagree with is that this is a priority. It’s a nice-to-have.

Once mod actions are supported, and an API exists, any imaginable automation can be implemented by anyone with the impetus to do so.

As such, the priority of further integration drops drastically and platform developer attention can and should move elsewhere.

Mod tools are best created by the people who use them. Even better when they are created for the needs of a specific community. As such, more advanced features should be deferred until later.

Once communities grow large enough that there are a significant number of moderator-developers around, it might be worth creating a generic bot that can be configured as needed. (As has happened with reddit, discord, etc.)

Asking for these tools before then, is inefficient, because the people who ideally should be working on them, haven’t shown up yet, and the platform developers time is better spent on other things.

Indeed.

My core point is that when it comes to moderation, I would prioritize actual mod actions (such as a mod being able to mark posts nsfw instead of deleting them outright) and API support for those actions, over built-in automod features.

Once you have an API, anyone with the skills can implement whatever automation they need.

After that, I would priotize a bunch of other things, too, before ever coming back around to built-in automod features.

If everything is a priority, nothing is a priority.

By now I’ve written four bots using the lemmy API.

Any one of your ideas is doable in a weekend if I ever feel the need for a modding bot. But I haven’t. Several communities and instances already have them.

Honestly that’s how it should be. Modding can have such diverse needs depending on community that just implementing every possible eventuality into lemmy itself, is a huge ask.

Any large community on discord, reddit and other platforms, make extensive use of automod bots. Because using the API, you can write bots that do whatever you can think of.

Modding is volunteer work, but it is work.

If you need tools, find them. If they don’t exist, create them. If you don’t have the skills or time, then don’t volunteer.

Asking some volunteers to do more than they already are because you think they are letting down another set of volunteers just risks burning out a different set of volunteers.

Yes.

If you always direct-play, the only bitrate you can use is original.

If you ever need to watch on a slow connections using a lower bitrate, that will require transcoding.

I’m not on windows personally.

Also filelight and kde connect.

Who mentioned piracy?

I get the files from bandcamp and quobuz. Unlike movies, you can still legally buy music, and get actual files.

Are they going to switch to a reward system that doesn’t allow botfarms to steal money from legitimate artists?

No?

That would reduces apparent user volume?

Oh noo…

I’m happy it works for you. In my case it simply wasn’t long-term stable, as such I’d never return to it, or recommend it.

Also, giving manjaro a hard time is the style at this time.

Manjaro, twice?

Surely no-one is that foolish?

Unlikely. 5 is just all of OpenAIs previous models in a trenchcoat.

Was the statue at least US made?

You literally do, though. You just said you do.

No I don’t and no I didn’t. I don’t get downvotes and reports and go “yesss, views and engagement”. Each time I have, I’ve reconsidered my posts in an effort to not have that happen again.

Your apparent assumption that I don’t care whether content is seen by people who want to see it, is entirely on you. I do care.

But the only way to ensure no-one who doesn’t want to see it, sees it, is not to post. So yeah, I’m ok with some minority of people being put off.

Okay, but then can you stop trying to use people talking about communities which include the ones you don’t want to engage with as a way to dismiss their claims as blown out of proportion?

Do you have an example beyond the one I made it clear I’m aware of? I block these too. They’re not popping up every day, which was your point.

I have the courtesy to marking my NSFW as NSFW

Did you miss the part where I said I do the same? I’m simply do not agree that there is any level of sense in filing the entire ecategory of anime content on lemmy, under nsfw. That is completely insane. It’s an art medium, not a pornhub genre.

beyond that I think the culture of ridiculously exploitative depictions of women in anime being defended as “not technically porn” is the root of some incredibly toxic aspects of modern culture, which is a completely separate issue I admit

I’m not sure where to even begin unpacking the prejudice towards anime-fans here. Sure there are issues, but come on. This isn’t argument. The only reason to include this thought is to reveal how little you think of me because of something I like.

it’s just bizarre how hostile people are to being asked to use the one tool we have to separate content.

Because it doesn’t work. The NSFW toggle is used to tag porn, spoilers, nsfl, and many other things, yet at the same time a ton of people use and expect it to work the way “not safe for work” implies. It’s a mess. We need arbitrary tagging.

In the meantime using it more than necessary DOES slow down the already glacial growth of federated social media. That’s a fact, not an opinion. Suggesting it should be applied to an entire fucking fandom is not far off wishing that that the entire fandom not be allowed on the fediverse. And no, “it works fine for porn” is not a counter-argument. People looking for porn aren’t going to be avoiding the nsfw tag. They’ll head straight for it. Would you like to guess what they do if they find one of my communities instead of actual porn? They downvote.

also you’re trying to conflate adult-targeted content with a long and entrenched history of sexism with music preferences, and I know you know that’s a false equivalency

What long entrenched history of sexism? Weeb=sexist now? It seems to me you genuinely hate us. As a whole and individually. You want me hidden more than necessary because apparently the things I’m into make me sexist or worse. And/or my sharing the things I’m into, spreads this sexism, and worse.

Seriously, are you actually claiming that having to view a couple anime girls before blocking the relevant communities, for which a convenient list is provided, is so dangerous and corrupting that it warrants the “warning label” that is nsfw being applied to every single related post?

Engagement is any interaction, including viewing, from a user.

I don’t maximize for that. The only “engagement” I actively look for is the positive kind. You think I wouldn’t start marking things nsfw if it got a ton downvotes when I didn’t?

Currently, the reality is the other way around. Pointlessly tagged posts receive significantly less votes, because people looking for porn don’t vote, and people browsing normally, are less likely to check a post tagged nsfw.

Why is Thighdeology marked nsfw on reddit, yet still a hugely popular subreddit, but somehow that would be a deathknell for it to be the same on lemmy?

Critical mass. Tons of things are a death-knell to fediverse activity simply because it is tiny. Reddit can support a shitload of duplicate communities any one of which outweighs the single equivalent fediverse community by orders of magnitude.

Your list includes none of the many AI-specific anime art communities that are out there, I think you need to be a bit more proactive in your browsing.

I actively refuse to engage with AI content. There are active communities besides !share_anime_art@lemmy.dbzer0.com that aren’t on porn instances?

Asking people to specify every word they don’t want to be exposed to is absurd, when there’s already one single and very easy to append word - NSFW - that you are ardently rejecting on the basis that it would damage your interactions.

Finding a common word used in content you don’t like is no harder that blocking. The feature becoming generally available would allow us to implement arbitrary tags. Why does this suggestion offend you? It’s a genuine win-win solution.

if you don’t want sexualized (but arguably non-explicit) images of anime girls in your feed, you’d have to go through and view a bunch of them before you can block it. Surely you can see how that’s… pretty ridiculous? Potentially very demeaning?

That’s true for any category of content. Are you saying anime girls are somehow inherently bad or damaging to users, as compared to for example sports content?

I blocked music content from my feed this way. Should I feel demeaned for having been made to see things other people enjoy, but I don’t care for?

don’t want to see that content as worth less than the people who do

Why are people who want to see the content worth less than the ones who don’t? Anyone can block content. No-one is likely to find content they don’t even know is there.

why is engagement more important to you than curating an appreciative audience

What is the difference between engagement and an appreciative audience? I aim to minimize the number of people I offend, while maximizing the people I reach. What’s wrong with that? What more can I do?

The only certain way to offend no-one, even if I marked every single post nsfw, is to stop posting entirely.

given how many new highly specific “anime moe tiddy thigh-gap colored hair” communities crop up daily

I keep seeing this argument. What new communities? With a couple exceptions, I run them! I haven’t made a new one in over a year, and I’ve only recently had to add half a dozen new entries to my list.

even just bringing out a different tag that isn’t blocked by default (which god, we really need even if just for spoilers) is a perfectly valid request.

Several clients offer word filtering. Asking for the feature in lemmy itself is fine, and something I fully support.

I run a ton of these communities.

And I care about the fediverse as a whole.

Marking an entire category of content as nsfw because a tiny minority can’t be bothered to block it themselves, without good reason, will immediately kneecap community and content discovery.

I saw this in the numbers immediately.

I do still use the feature. And I calibrate the line of what is and what is not, based on votes, comments and reports.

One, single, upset person, is not reason enough cut off dozens or hundreds of people from encountering content they might like.

I’m good with nipples. And porn for that matter. I just don’t want it in my feed.

I have nipples in my phone wallpaper rotation. Female ones. But the relevant pieces fall into the artistic rather than pornographic category.

NSFW is a insanely fuzzy concept that allows you to draw the line essentially anywhere. It’s why I’m on an instance that blocks porn, rather than just using an account with nsfw tagged content disabled. Because that way I can keep nsfw enabled, and not miss stuff I want to see, because some people will mark stuff I would never in my wildest dreams think is nsfw.

Or they just use it to mark spoilered content, nevermind that people with nsfw disabled wont then see the post at all.

My instance manually blocks instances and communities that are pornographic. Because that’s literally the only way this can work.

There will always be someone who thinks any given piece of content should/shouldn’t be considered nsfw.

It’s a gradient that allows you to slightly lean in onen direction or the other, so stop acting like it should “at least” do anything. It does not draw a clear line, and there is no way to shift online culture so that it could.

They better not go outside then.

Lota of people dress lightly in public, not to mention public art and adverts show quite a lot.

We have several statues of nude men and women in my city!

Requiring that social media be more “sanitized” than normal public life is ridiculous.

Have you considered using a client with word filtering?

What are these new communities btw?

I maintain the list available here, and I’ve only needed to add half a dozen new communities in the last year.

You’re welcome to use it for blocking.

I will not be marking any of my communities nsfw, only content within them which warrants it.