the post is about wireless networks, not online services

that probably does not have redundancy

I AM THE ADMINISTATOR!

well, yeah, maybe it should have gone to the parent comment

to be honest if that happens its better to understand why that happens, instead of just pulling the plug. maybe a larger program (like firefox) is still exiting and in the middle of saving the session and closing databases. if you pull the plug, it’ll corrupt its data, it’ll forget your opened tabs and whatnot and you’ll be angry

browsers are not protocols but applications. how do you make an open standard for an application? was that done before?

you shouldn’t allow a web browser and an operating system be in one company

yeah, i too have set up a redirect for port 53 to my DNS server on the main router, for a long time didn’t do that though. but then, even this doesn’t matter if they just hardcode a list of IPs

that was a good one :) fixed the typo

that may not be enough. while I don’t know how common it is, it is not unknown that they use DoH, DoT, direct connections to hardcoded IP without DNS to evade such blocking measures. chinese IP cams often do the latter

if pihole says its blocked, that does not mean your device does not also query another DNS server

and once they should really hardcode the DNS or similar stuff here, the connection will be disabled

but how’ll you notice that? that ads return? different subsystems of the tv might work differently

Once they try to reach IPs directly (ECOVACS once did so) you may block those on a firewall-basis

and how do you know what IPs to block? and then, a server on an IP could hold multiple services such that blocking it breaks multiple things.

I’m not here to tease you, but I really think that this might not be enough even today

well that’s what I’m saying to the parent commenter

with a pihole they can easily work around, or proper network isolation?

this sounds terrible

such things should be brought back to the store as defective

a quick reminder that the 5G standard defined a peer to pear peer operating mode for smart devices

does not worth anything nowadays. they’ll just retry with 8.8.8.8, a DoH service or something else. pretty sure they can also do without DNS, like chinese cameras use connections that cannot be blocked with a hosts file because they are going directly to a preprogrammed IP

what can it do if the TV uses DoH, DoT, or something else similar? I expect that it can do nothing. unless the TV is on a separate vlan with very strictly only access to internal services

Pretty lame them pretending to not have user names while doing it.

doesn’t this essentially make it an opt-in system to user names?

well thing is, they might be searching for a new home