That sounds like way too much, unless you have a really congested network or interference in the area. Should be able to get it at least 10x faster, unless you’re taking the web server page load time into account in your latency numbers and not just the network.

We were originally discussing why subscriptions can make sense to fund ongoing costs and you replied:

What kind of subscriptions require large infrastructure?

My response was based on the original topic of services provided by large companies, not self hosting for individual consumption. I also run a proxmox server and have similar requirements to you, but this is not indicative of the type of infrastructure a larger company with higher SLAs and demands would require.

Saying you can slap together a couple proxmox servers and have something equivalent to what it takes to run Netflix is highly disingenuous. Saying you can do the same and have an alternative to Netflix for YOU is true, but not what we’re discussing.

This isn’t meant as a slight, but I take it you don’t work in IT. You are way underestimating what it takes to run a service at the scale these large companies do. Homelabbing is cool and a great way to get off these providers, but we as individuals have completely different requirements. A proper cloud service is incredibly complex with multiple environments, rigid change controls, global availability, zero allowable downtime, etc. You can’t just wing it with a few desktops.

Oh wow, that looks even better! When I was looking into this about a year or so ago all I could find was the BedJet and it used air instead of water. There was another company but it went out of business, this looks like it might be it?

Do you know if the Chillpad Dock Pro has sleep tracking like the Sleep 8? A big seller for me is that it automatically prevents overheating/being cold, and wakes you up at the right time. The website says this:

Automatic Temperature Adjustments for Optimal Sleep Schedule automated temperature adjustments throughout the night to keep your bed at the perfect temperature for optimal sleep.

That sounds contradictory for it to be both automatic, but also scheduled.

If you don’t own it or don’t know don’t worry, I’ll research it more. I really appreciate you showing me these options!

Wow, I didn’t know freesleep was a thing. I wrote the sleep pod off due to the subscription snd cloud reliance. Looks like someone is working on a Home Assistant integration too! This is definitely something I’m going to follow.

I’m conflicted though, as I really don’t want to give money to a company with such a terrible business model, but they’re the only ones who make this kind of bed.

It doesn’t need one. Sleep Eight decided to make it that way.

I’ve been having a lot of trouble with sleep lately, and it’s really impacting my work and life. Apart from working with my Dr I was seriously considering ponying up the big bucks for a Sleep Eight until I found that literally all of it’s features rely on the cloud, and a monthly subscription, for no legitimate reason whatsoever.

Look, I’m for subscriptions when they make sense. Have a service that requires a lot of infrastructure? Subscription. Something that needs continuous dev work? Subscription. All I ask is that the subscription be kept low so that it’s affordable and everyone can be happy. But that’s not how it goes. Two things end up happening:

1. They price the subscriptions at $10-15+ per month making it quite a large expense in aggregate. They’re not being priced the fair cost of maintenance or development, they’re being priced to make even more money.
2. The device doesn’t need cloud infrastructure at all, they just chose to do it that way to retain control and keep you dependant.

Both are what’s happening with the Sleep Eight. You literally can’t use any of the sleep detection features (things that run locally on a cheap smart band from 10 years ago) without the cloud. Its insane. There is no good reason that couldn’t be done on device.

I refused to buy it because of their business model, but they’re really the only game in town for this kind of product. They seem to be getting away with it, so I guess fuck me.

I don’t want account sharing either, except theres things like Google homes where you can’t sign in with more than one account. People sharing the same account in a TV aren’t trying to, it’s just the natural way they use it.

Exactly. I see that it can happen, I am seeing it happen first hand. I still don’t understand why it’s happening.

Yeah. I use Nebula and go out of my way to watch there whenever possible. The app isn’t great, but I still recommend it.

How much do we need to pay though? Most content creators I see have their patreon around $7 CDN/mo. Add even a couple and you’re now at the cost of a streaming subscription with much more content. I would have no problem paying content creators if the fees were more reasonable, but right now I only subscribe to a couple.

Should a creator’s patreon drop in price to $1 or $2 a month, or should the viewer pay a small fee per view? What new monetization system would make sense where the consumer doesn’t have an unaffordable pile of subscriptions, but the creators still get paid a fair rate for their effort?

A quick way to test would be installing the Flatpak version of FF. As far as I know it should contain everything you need in one go, plus super easy to uninstall.

The data would have to be scaled back, no doubt about that. Right now they collect everything under the sun because they can. Remember, this would be data they otherwise wouldn’t get at all.

If I were to predict how it would work I would say they would continue to send back full fidelity data over Wi-Fi the same as today, but mesh would be used as a fallback if nothing is available. That data could be bundled to once a day, or week or whatever they decide makes sense and would only include summary information like, how much time spent on each channel per day, SSIDs scanned in the area, etc.

Are you using Linux? Do you have the right codecs installed? Firefox shouldn’t be jerky.

It may not be that way for much longer. Take a look at Amazon Sidewalk. They’re using low power, long range mesh technology so Ring Doorbells and Echos can communicate without access to the internet. That may not sound like a big deal, but the potential is huge.

If companies like Amazon/Google are able to create a “side network” they could use it to provide low bandwidth backhaul for other companies that want to get telemetry from their airgapped devices.

So, for example, you get a new Roku smart TV and don’t connect it to your Wi-Fi, but your neighbour has a Ring doorbell so it just uses that.

Mesh tech is awesome, and so is tech in general, but we are so slow at regulating it. This stuff needs to be opt in at the absolute minimum.

I’m not a big social media user myself. Lemmy is pretty much it, unless I count watching videos on YouTube social media. I still feel a lot of the points he makes in the video.

Richard Stallman is a household name to tech enthusiasts, but there’s a whole young generation that’s being brought up in a world where this stuff was already there. I’m lucky I remember not having the internet as a child and I worry about how this is effecting the people who are oblivious to it.

I can’t even follow your arguments anymore.

As a user, I want as many options as possible, but if I can get a phone that’s $100 cheaper because it doesn’t have a headphone port, I’ll definitely choose that option.

You’re the one that implied headphone jacks add cost to phones. I’m saying that they don’t, and whatever cost they do add is minuscule. The implication that any cost savings is being passed to you is laughable.

Look, they killed the jack because they could save a couple bucks of design time and get a few cubic millimeters of space, but most importantly they could softly force their users to buy wireless headphones (maybe even the ones they sell and bundle?!). The former outcomes being happy accidents in order push the latter. It’s win win for them, and lose for the customer.

They know that their price concious customers are still using wired headphone and unlikely to take them up on their bundle, so they keep including it there. The affluent ones are the ones with cash to burn and little care for this issue. I get you like BT headphones, so do I, but there’s simply no good defense for the 3.5mm removal other than shilling.

And yet headphone ports are on all the cheap phones and lacking from the high end phones. Your argument just doesn’t hold water.

You’re missing the point again. It’s not one or the other. We used to have BOTH. I use BT headphones day to day because I like the convenience, like you. However there plenty of times I wished I had an aux out or forgot my BT buds and wanted to use a pair of headphones I had at the desk.

We deserve BOTH.

Yeah, that’s a good analogy.

Well, I mean it kind of is a solution. It’s a cloud backup solution. OneDrive doesn’t just keep a single version of your file, there’s versioning, retention policies, etc.

Cloud makes a lot of sense for businesses with small IT staff and a lot of users because while it’s not fully in your control, it comes with all the things being discussed here “out of the box” and scales infinitely.

For self hosters there’s some fun and power in doing everything yourself, but even then adding cloud as part of your backup (if done securely) is usually a pretty good idea.