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Cake day: June 4th, 2023

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  • Pretty funny seeing what is after all, a ‘romantic’ venture (dating apps) broken down in a completely utilitarian analysis. Also helps to have a brook-no-shit writing style.

    Years ago, was asked to do dev work on a clone of a dating app. Ended up looking at all the things these kinds of apps did to get people to pay. Two features I remember were giving new users option to buy top profile placement for a limited time, so they showed up as a first choice for everyone for the next hour.

    Another was sending paid ‘virtual’ gifts, which turned out were badly ripped off clipart of flowers and jewelry. This was when Tinder was first starting so none of the fancy retention methods described here or AI filters.

    I passed on working on the app, but made sure my wife knew exactly why I had installed all those dating apps on my phone. It really was for research.



  • What happens when their server expenses aren’t covered, or bad people move in and every message has to be moderated, or the site moderators ban you?

    And getting a whole community moved over… oof.

    I moved a private mailing list to a WhatsApp group, then they changed their privacy policies. It took two years to convince people on to Signal, and 2/3 of the people didn’t make the jump. And this was with a small group of people who knew each other IRL. Imagi e doing that for tens or hundreds of thousands worldwide.

    This is why people are hesitant to get off Meta/Twitter. They’re not going to do it again.


  • Your email server doesn’t also run the group email list and all the join/drop/approve/ban operations. And if you bring your own email domain name, you can go somewhere else and get no disruption. But if you sign up for me@hotmail.com and hotmail bans you, you’ll lose all your connections and conversation history.

    The canonical list of operations on a social media platform far exceed that of an email service, a bulletin board, or a messaging service group. It’s apples and rocket ships.

    Bluesky is offering simple one-stop answers to a lot of these concerns. Fediverse needs to answer all these, plus address the whole long-term financial sustainability question.


  • The Fediverse experience starts with an unanswerable question: what server do you want to be on?

    Most people will not have any way to answer that without knowing what the downstream impact will be. Mastodon people are working on smoothing that down, but it’s still a pretty fraught question. And if half a given community ends up on one server and half on another, they get fragmented and conversations and followers fizzle out.

    Bluesky wants to tell people they’re not a single-node lock-in to avoid the Twitter effect, but it turns out that’s their key advantage.

    The only thing that will guarantee they don’t end up like Twitter is if they revamp their corporate governance mechanisms, but they had to take VC money and haven’t come up with a long-term revenue model, so it’s not clear how they can avoid it.