I think it’s inevitable because capitalism, capitalism loves to treat people like replaceable cogs.
These would be literal replaceable cogs that never rest, don’t have rights, don’t need to account for safety concerns, and don’t have any of the other messy human bits
And even if we managed to suddenly outgrow capitalism, being able to have robots making robots in space would be a huge game changer
I see one for $43k on there, I don’t see any for $200k on that site
But that’s kinda irrelevant, as is how much Amazon’s robots cost. The point is how quickly robotics is advancing
There’s so many companies making these that I can’t find the one I saw weeks ago. They’re being tested in real world conditions. There’s a million groups playing with these things, trying to get them to do more and more tasks
And think of what full automation would look like… It would be a bunch of factory equipment like it is now. The automatons just need to carry and place stuff between stations, maybe slot things together and screw them in. That’s not that high a bar
I just don’t see the line where any of that is impossible. It seems inevitable if society doesn’t collapse this decade
Did you not convert from yuan or something lol?
I know I half assed those links, but your numbers are an order of magnitude off lmao
No… I’ve never seen those before. That’s not what I’m talking about at all, I also think the Tesla robots piloted by humans are probably going nowhere, for the record
Want to run failed startups past me some more? I gave you examples of humanoid robots being tested in real world conditions
Lmao… That’s a wild take. Boston dynamics has been steadily improving this whole time, they were the first to really crack bipedal locamotion. Not just walking, running and flipping. Carrying loads. Kipping back up to their feet
You can, right now, for $8k buy a humanoid robot that can run, and be controlled to do whatever else. That’s insane
And you can get shelf stacking humanoid robots that work commercially. These exist and are for sale
Amazon is currently field testing humanoid robots that deliver packages from the truck to the door.
Your knowledge is very dated, friend.
No, I’m talking about automonous humanoid robots specifically. The rollers and shelf bots have been around for years
NVidia also just released a big suite of tools to train AI for robotics, it’s basically a huge physics sandbox where you can train and test models at scale before real world testing
Boston dynamics and others are currently writing/lobbying regulations for bipedal robots so that they can meet safety requirements - current safety standards require an emergency shutoff switch, but bipedal robots fall over if they don’t balance, which isn’t particularly safe
This is happening, and quickly. None of them have the dexterity to machine parts, but the range of tasks they can do is rapidly expanding
I don’t know what to tell you, other than it’s already happening. Once the first robot builds a second, it’s over. You can buy one that can physically do light tasks for $8k, this summer Amazon started using robots for deliveries and has been using them for packaging for longer
It’s not science fiction, it’s now an engineering problem, one that is progressing quickly
And if the machines are the ones building new parts, that, like many other things, goes out the window. They can even recycle and refurbish parts
Hey, yeah…I forgot they never actually fixed the Tik Tok situation over here
The overhead on the robot is mostly maintenance, which is a humanoid skill. If the robots can maintain each other, or build each other, someone just won capitalism
You could mount it on top or vertically behind the rack and have it still look decent and be functional with a little handiwork
You still are going to need a router, although you don’t need a fancy router and a fancy switch, you just have to make sure you’re not bottlenecked and have to design things differently
2.5 gb is probably more than enough, but you could probably get away with 1 gb if you aren’t doing a lot of file transfers - if it’s just backups and streaming video, if you want to get fancy it might become a bottleneck.
PoE is kinda niche so unless you have specific plans to use it, it probably won’t come up
The switch supports vlans, so you could get fancy with a VPN gateway and access these things remotely with a Virtual DMZ, but realistically that’s a bitch to set up and you could just make a real DMZ with a router/wifi access point combo. Or just forget the DMZ and have a VPN gateway that connects to the local network
I really just don’t know enough about how you want to use this to get more specific. This is probably more switch than you need, but if you’re not connecting from outside it’ll probably work great for the LAN
Networking is all about bottlenecks, and I doubt this will be a bottleneck for a good while
Fuuuuck.
I’m not sure what you’re asking
In your position, I would want a VPN. I like wire guard, it’s pretty simple compared to other options… But just comparatively
If you want to do networking to network, I can suggest all sorts of things… None of them is practical for normal use cases, but some are pretty neat
Sure thing, and for the record I’m a primary source. I’ve seen this directly, going back more than a decade
Everyone. Damn near everyone has a phone at this point, Facebook even handed them out to keep the user numbers growing at one point
People who live in dirt floor huts walk to churches or other gathering places to charge them. The cheapest smart phones are essentially worthless, so there’s no point stealing or selling them.
And cell service isn’t all that expensive to run, so it’s priced to what people will pay
Oh, I was talking about the tech-bros. They’re the ones who shouldn’t have access to sci-fi, or at least not the cautionary tales
Yeah, well, searching things is impossible these days, and after clicking around for a while I found one that looked similar.
I did read an article about one, went to their page and it was listed as $8k, I looked up the specs and it looked like it could pick up about 20lbs and has a weak but reasonable grip, and it made an impact. Then I saw video of someone recording one running down a sidewalk - it was a cell phone recording, but the robot was controlled by someone filming a demo in public
I don’t really care if you take me at my word or not, the price factor to me means more because it means every robotics program in the world will be able to play with them.
But again, this isn’t the core of my argument at all, but by the time I was looking up links I was kinda getting bored with this. I like to argue over ideas, it’s a field I’m following closely with so much happening and we’re just too far apart to make this constructive.