• Amju Wolf@pawb.social
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    3 days ago

    I don’t think LTT ever did or claimed to do investigative journalism (or really journalism at all)?

    They make entertainment videos that sometimes have mildly informative value.

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      I just got sick of there always being a new “controversy” with him and his inability to seem like he gives a shit about it. Each time he gets accused of something, whether he did it or not, he just goes on the WAN show to sigh as big as possible and say “Guys…”

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        I mean it’s fair to avoid “drama” no matter who stirs it, but most of their controversies were fairly well handled and largely overblown.

        I think my biggest issue was the whole “trust me bro” “warranty”, but that was mostly a cultural clash and Linus still had some good points even originally when he talked about it, even if the way he did so was extremely tone deaf.

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          The tone deafness is it, you’ve put it better words that I could. It doesn’t matter to me whether he was right or wrong about it, he still manages to come across as abrasive at best or smug and shitty at worst. Like, let Luke talk about it instead or something.

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            The thing is, he does that fairly rarely, and seems to have mostly learned (to at least keep his mouth shut).

            And TBF I don’t think he could build a company like that without a bit of cockyness, and he certainly does deserve recognition for what he achieved.

            The vast majority of stuff they do - even if it’s a fuckup - they actually handle well and make everyone whole. In away they’re sometimes forced a bit by circumstances but in general I feel like they’re genuinely trying to do their best and be fair.

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      3 days ago

      I don’t think LTT ever did or claimed to do investigative journalism (or really journalism at all)?

      But thats how it’s presented, and that’s how many viewers interpet it.

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        2 days ago

        Again, what? Where? Their most informative videos do reviews and testing, which is regular journalism at best.

        I can remember maybe one or two videos that were somewhat investigative.

        It’s just not what they do or what they claim to do.

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      3 days ago

      First it’s not investigative journalism, it’s hardware reviews that may or may not reveal problems, and he fakes and cheat with his, and takes money illegally under the table for making good reviews.
      Difference between him and for instance Gamers Nexus, is that Gamers Nexus reveals if he detects something is off when he tests. While LTT prefer to get companies to pay for good reviews that gloss over the problems.

      People are idiots if they believe your claim is true, and apparently most do?!

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        Um, can you give some examples (with proof) of where LTT got paid to give a good review?

        That’s an extreme accusation, and everything I’ve watched for the past decade+ seems to contradict that.

        For obvious reasons that’s something they want to avoid. Hell they’re still happy to get on the bad side of companies for integrity, they’re just way less aggressive and outspoken about it compared to GN.

        In fact I feel like GN sometimes overplays it a bit.

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          That’s an extreme accusation

          Yes, and I can make it without fear of him suing me, because it’s true.

          It was pretty obvious if you have more than 2 brain cells and the ability of critical thinking.
          But Gamers Nexus actually gave examples of obvious “conflicts of interests”:
          https://youtu.be/FGW3TPytTjc?t=1575

          This is actually from way after I stopped viewing LTT trash, but I can’t just go back multiple years and dig up the evidence.
          But if you really are curious, you would have to track his “sponsors” and compare them to his “reviews”. And the evidence will quickly be pretty clear.

          For instance it was very obvious that after AMD became a major sponsor around 2018, Radeon suddenly got way better reviews.
          Raja had tried to suck up to him, and give him special treatment and privileges of first access with the Vega release, which didn’t work the slightest. But when they became a sponsor THAT WORKED!

          And when Intel stopped their sponsoring of him, he suddenly made several features complaining about how bad Intel was. This was at least true, it’s just funny how the criticism didn’t come out until they stopped paying him.
          Intel stopped supporting YouTube reviewers in general, but other channels did not suddenly switch how they reviewed Intel.

          LTT is corrupt as hell, to the point he may use his popularity for extortion. He probably doesn’t think so himself, because he seemingly doesn’t have the intelligence to see that what he is doing is wrong, unless it is pointed out to him very clearly.

          But if you don’t have eyes to see what’s going on, I really can’t help you.

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            I just want to point out that you gave no proof and admitted that Intel sucks. Also I don’t need to see any sponsored videos to know AMD has gotten better.

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              you gave no proof

              WTF! I gave a timed link to Gamers Nexus CLEARLY demonstrating LTT posting videos with similar conflict of interest.
              And I gave examples of how payment as “sponsor” which was the method he mostly used, omitting the sponsor part in his reviews, gave exactly the result I claimed. And even that the opposite was also the case for the non payment.

              I also demonstrated the fact that such claims can be made without risk is also evidence of the truth of the claim.

              HOW the fuck can you say I gave no proof? You appear to refuse to see the truth, or have a complete lack of understanding of what evidence is.

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                Again, you didn’t provide any examples where LTT got paid to give a good review.

                They’re in the tech industry, they’re going to have conflicts of interest if they diversify their investments. And Gamer Nexus didn’t do as deep of a dive on those as you think.

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        LTT and gamers nexus face similar but not exactly the same pressures. Gamers nexus is able to be more aggressive than Linus is but Linus structured his business in such a way that made it vulnerable to such a things.

        The clearest example of this was when the Intel overvolting bug was being hidden by Intel PR spin and GN noticed a pattern, said fuck all that noise, and raised hell over it. GN was right. Intel was wrong. And GN was rewarded for it. Linus has to keep sponsors happy whereas GN regularly throws punches with industry titans like NVIDIA.

        The risk is higher but so is the reward. People trust GN specifically because of that reputation. Linus is fun, his channel is interesting, but he’s squarely in the influencer/entertainment category.

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          Linus has to keep sponsors happy

          Meaning that for Linus you are the product, and the advertisers are the real customers.
          Again meaning the videos are not made for you, they are made for the advertisers.