I just had my first experience blocking an instance, and it made my realize now nice the lemmy content curation experience is vs the centralized model.
Recently I started noticing a lot of posts from that I just found annoying. There was nothing inherently wrong with them, they just came from a culture I don’t understand and so I found them cringey. Since they all came from one community, realized most of them come from the same instance. I just added that instance to my blocklist and the problem is solved!
Now think about in the centralized model. I would be forced to either just accept that these posts are in my timeline, or block each community and user individually. The instance gave me an easy way to manage my content.
I also appreciate that instances can manage the blocking for their users. So the most horrible stuff I don’t even see. But it also preserves free speech, as those users who want to say horrible things can do so in their own instance, and most people will just block it.
Anyway, just impressed again by the fediverse!
No one is entitled to attention, and sometimes people need to take a breather for their own mental health.
So block the communities instead of the ENTIRE INSTANCE.
Smug libs keep shutting out their own neighbors without realizing the disastrous effects of siloing large swaths pf vulnerable people from reaching ANYONE. Tribalism has had such a terrible effect on the world yet I see smug otherwise very intelligent people climbing over one another to engage in it.
IMO, the only way to stop ignorance and hate is to actually know people from MANY walks of life and face those differences head on. If you dismiss every last one of them wholesale at the slightest sign of differences, you are intellectually weak and deserve the dystopian future we are all being herded and astroturfed into.
That’s the same talking points the alt-right uses and we don’t tolerate it.
And I’ve been on the Internet long enough to watch so-called “progressive” spaces get hijacked by the right wing under the guise of “free speech”.
When a culture grows toxic, it’s simply toxic no matter their talking points.
So the fact people have the power to block entire instances at their discretion, this is a good thing.
You are not entitled to my attention, nor am I entitled to yours.
Freedom of speech is an “alt-right” talking point?!?!?!
Are you listening to yourself?
To illustrate my point: I heard Elon is against the obvious CIA front organization USAID so I 100% guarantee you’re now pro CIA.
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You have freedom of speech. I also have the freedom to walk away from your speech and listen to someone else.
And that is a wonderful thing. Use the town square analogy and you’ll see that I’m not against THAT. I’m against victory laps advertising the blinders over a whole instance.
People need to know this feature exists and that it’s a good thing.
They’ve literally been banging the freeze-peach button constantly. Every single time there’s consequences for their actions for a decade or two now. Where have you been?
I hear they drink a lot of water too. I think we should give up water to own the nazi’s.
It’s not my concern if you decide to continue self-sabotaging. That’s on you. You’re definitely not helping yourself and not fostering any actual discussion that’s for sure. You must be an Anarchist ironically. Just out for chaos. And not for Mutual Aid and understanding.
Insult me all you want. You didn’t change my mind.
Ps. Look at the rest of the discussions I am having with people. It seems the tone of this particular thread in the conversation is destined for toxicity because you’re not ready to admit the ugly truth about your perspective.
You’re the only one insulting yourself. The toxicity is heavily attached to you. A lot of the rest of us are having a fine conversation.
I do not think it’s a good idea to isolate people in cults in their own echo chambers… although my faith in humanity and basic decency has seen better days, I still believe good examples matter.
Cults aren’t isolated by others. They self-isolate.
A user blocking an instance does not block the users from that instance from interacting with the user who blocked.
It’s not well explained, but my understanding is that an instance block just prevents communities from that instance, and posts made by users on thay instance, from showing for the user that blocked the instance. Comments from users of that instance still show for the blocking user, and the block is one way anyway.
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Folks like you and the hundred other people also “just asking questions” or playing devils advocate" and expecting trans people to engage in a debate as to whether or not we actually deserve equal rights is exactly why this shit never works.
It’s interesting to you because it’s purely intellectual. To the person having to endlessly argue that they do in fact deserve equal rights, it’s a shit fucking experience that we actively seek to disengage from when possible, because it’s all around us, all the time.
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The first half of your post is you talking about trauma you’ve received from other people, telling you that you’re wrong/evil/broken/perverted etc.
The second half of your post is explaining how you think it’s ok for you to do the same thing to others, because you do it “for the right reasons”
When you confront a bigot with transphobia pushed to the extreme, what you do is add to the trauma that every trans person already has to deal with daily. You don’t magically convert someone from bigotry. Bigots aren’t bigots because they reasons their way in to bigotry, and so you can’t stop them from being bigots by reasoning them out of it.
I come from the background of bigotry. I was one of these people. I have changed and am still, and hopefully always a work in progress.
I am trying to tell you that the experience of debating like I described was the primary catalyst that converted my dogma by questioning my assumptions. The moment that changed my mindset the most was realizing that a ban on abortion is a death sentence for some and that outcome is no better because it is anything but pro life. I realized in that moment that such arbitrary assumptions are stereotypes and all stereotypes have outliers that are harmed. I realized that I want to harm the fewest number of people possible as my internal form of ethics. I believe in the Hippocratic aphorism of “first, do no harm.” So my primary value is to live and let live.
If I had not had that opportunity to debate controversial topics, I would still likely be a dogmatic fool. It was hard for some students in the class when racism was a subject, but the teachers tread the subject with strong moderation. I learned a lot of the nuances about what black families were going through and how things were a lot harder for many of them. It made me feel much closer to them as friends and willing to stand up for them when I may not have otherwise. I saw how most students had a similar experience and it put a spotlight on the few students that lacked empathy in ways that ostracized them.
All I have said is from this perspective of wanting to help fight dogma effectively. I’m well aware that dogma cannot be argued directly. It can be manipulated easily from within by someone that is an accepted member of the tribal group. Such a person can refocus attention elsewhere and poke holes in the logic that supports some branch of reasoning. It is challenging to do without getting labeled a heretic, but it is not too difficult. Trump banged a porn star he said reminded him of his daughter, and Musk is a polygamist yet they are of divine origin. I can play this way. My entire life has been lived in this balance of understanding dogmatism.
Again, I’m not going to create the community. When I post about my explorations of AI that are outside of the norm people show they are not very open minded or curious here. I think this kind of community and post would make me even more deeply depressed based on the demographics response to any topics. I think these types of debates require a filtered room of the best and brightest. That is unfortunate, as I believe this is the only way to convert dogma into questioning and curiosity as it was for me. It didn’t work for my sister though. She is a high Machiavellian as well, but she is emotionally intuitive and manipulative of people whereas I am more manipulative of abstract ideas while empathetic of people. I genuinely care. I will never intentionally hurt you or anyone else and will work to repair anything if it is brought to my attention. My only goal is to make anyone’s life a little better, not worse, before my life avalanches into oblivion soon. I am sorry that I have upset you in that effort, and failure.
Thank you so much!!!
I couldn’t have said it any better. ✊🏽
Beehaw defederated from LW, not the other way around IIRC
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