• 51dusty@lemmy.world
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      2 days ago

      how can an ai bot pull a free speech defense? free speech is, ostensibly, reserved for people…?

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        2 days ago

        Are you under the impression that the AI bot was not created by people?

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          So? The manufacturer of the product is not responsible for how people use the product. Otherwise there would be no gun manufacturers anymore.

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            They are, however, responsible if the product they created does illegal things.

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        Based on what? Who have you seen be convicted of making deepfake porn? Under what law?

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          Under what law?

          Take it down act

          On April 28, 2025, Congress passed S. 146, the TAKE IT DOWN Act, a bill that criminalizes the nonconsensual publication of intimate images, including “digital forgeries” (i.e., deep fakes), in certain circumstances.

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            Is providing it over a private channel to a singular user publication?

            I suspect that you will have to directly regulate image generation

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                It absolutely is private insofar as it is a channel between the software running on their end -> user who is operating the software. The lack of end to end encryption does not make it not private it makes it insecure which doesn’t speak whatsoever to the issue raised which is that creation of an image by a user isn’t likely to be considered publication until they share it.

                It’s highly probable that keeping people from generating deep fake nudes requires additional law.

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              you will have to directly regulate image generation

              Its already being done to help prevent fake CSAM.

              That should have been standard from the start.

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            Hmm, interesting, thanks. Has anyone been charged or convicted with this law yet?

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              Definitely not convicted. That’d be some crazy speed.

              However, your insistence that it hasn’t happened yet so can’t happen is insane. There has to be a first case in which it hadn’t happened before.

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                your insistence that it hasn’t happened yet so can’t happen is insane

                It would be insane if that was what I had insisted, but that didn’t happen. You just made it up.

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                  Based on what? Who have you seen be convicted of making deepfake porn? Under what law?

                  Then you’re provided a law where it’d be illegal:

                  Hmm, interesting, thanks. Has anyone been charged or convicted with this law yet?

                  This seems to heavily imply you don’t believe it’s illegal until someone’s been convicted.

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          Uhm, there have been plenty of cases of people getting in trouble for sharing deepfake porn yes. It’s sexual harassment.

          Well, at least over here in Europe, and it’s mostly been with teenagers, I don’t know the situation on the US

          But generally, making and sharing porn of real people is… well… that can very easily count as sexual harassement