Keep it contained in a VM, best hazardous containment.
I’m actually happy to say this is me, I recently installed Mint on a separate m.2 drive from windows, I wanted to just test it. I now find myself almost permanently on Mint, only going back to windows once to play a multiplayer game that isn’t on Linux yet.
Best setup ever:
1)install Linux on one drive.
2)install Windows on a second drive.
3)boot from grub on the first drive and add an entry to boot Windows.
4)on a 3rd drive format it ext3 or optionally dos. Mount this puppy at /home or even /home/user.
5)don’t let windows touch you Linux home drive ever. Fuck windows and Microsoft. Both can suck my entire ass. If you ever need to share files between these systems use a pen drive. Microsoft doesn’t deserve you. Just use it as a last resort, do your thing and GTFO ASAP.I’ve got this setup, but optimized slightly:
- Install linux on one drive
That space at the end of 1) is doing some heavy lifting.
I used to run Windows on an esata drive that I would only power up occasionally in order to game, and it still somehow – and I don’t remember how – managed to ruin my computer.
Yeah, isolated home drive is the way to go. You just nuke Linux and windows and restart but your stuff is safe.
What’s wrong with a VM? I set up a Win10 instance in VMM right after I switched to Linux full time 10 months ago, but I had to use it exactly once to configure the RGB on my keyboard, and haven’t had a reason to boot it up since.
From what I understood, it runs on ‘Bare Metal’ which means that it theoretically should preform just as well as if you booted into it, with the only overhead being the *nix which is minimal.
I’m not saying it’s better, I’m honestly asking because I have very little experience with it.
I used to dual boot back in the day, but that was when I was still on HDDs and the long ass boot times meant I usually just stayed in Windows if I was planning on gaming that day.
That’s not how that works. I think your confusing bare metal with bare metal hypervisor. The latter is meant to mean a Type-1 Hypervisor, which KVM isn’t anyway but that’s another story.
Without GPU pass through you aren’t going to get nearly the graphics performance for something like gaming. I’ve also had issues with KVM and libvirt breaking during sleep. It’s a lot more janky than you make out.
Well it does seem to be a somewhat confusing subject, so forgive me for getting it wrong. I must have misunderstood or misremembered the information I read when setting up the VM 10 months ago. As I said, I have very little experience with them and was honestly just asking if it’s not almost as good. I wasn’t trying to ‘make it out’ to be ‘not janky’.
According to Wiki, KVM " is a … virtualization module in the Linux kernel that allows the kernel to function as a hypervisor."
I wasn’t aware that there was a distinction between a Hypervisor and a ‘Type-1’ Hypervisor, but now I know so thank you for clearing that up for me.
Without GPU pass through you aren’t going to get nearly the graphics performance for something like gaming.
According to this wiki, it seems like GPU passthrough is possible with KVM if your system supports IOMMU, mine does. But it looks like you also need a separate GPU to do that, so that answers my question about is it nearly as good as dual booting.
Every game I have attempted to run has just worked and they seem to run just as good as they did in Windows, so I guess I’m lucky I don’t need to really worry about dual booting or VM’s. I was just kind of wondering if it would work if I did need it, since that seemed like it would be a lot simpler than booting into a different operating system.
I gave that up decades ago. If i can’t do it in Linux, i don’t need to do it.
Windows in VM with vitio drivers and guest tools
And looking glass for good games performance for those select few titles that otherwise refuse
Last time I booted into windows it wiped my grub partition. That was the day I decided I didn’t really need windows anymore.
At least I made it fun for myself and my Windows-using sibling with whom I share a computer with. GRUB themes are cool! Also, I didn’t make it myself, you can find the theme here: https://www.pling.com/p/2275254some icons there seems to be ai slop tho (not win and tux)
I didn’t even know grub could display images.
What happens on triple or more boot? Is it just a tree?
“Linux or windows”
- Linux
“Ubuntu or other?” - other
“Arch or other” - other
“Void or FreeBSD”
…
Linux was already specified, so no BSD
- Linux
Also seems like it would be fun to do with rEFInd
That is amazing
This is fantastic, I should do this
Me booting into windows just to play some gta online
I still don’t understand gta online. For me the whole point of the GTA games was that you could do anything without a single thought because you were the only real person involved. That disappears when you add other people.
Well i have to admit i’ve actually been treating gta online as a single player grind game for the most part. On ps4/5 i did play together with a friend of mine though, but playing in a lobby with randoms can definitely be frustrating, especially if you are a grinder because lots of people like blowing your shit up. I’m honestly still shocked that rockstar allows you to pretty much do everything in invite only lobbies now, because i remember having to do all kinds of tricks with my internet connection to get into a public lobby by myself.
for me it was that i was able to play with friends. i don’t have any, but if i did, we would’ve had some fun with heists.
The day I wiped all partitions from my dual boot and started fresh with no windows on the machine was a revelation. My heart sang and my soul wept with joy. Windows lives in a caged state now, a neutered monster I rarely demand dance for me because it is ugly and awkward and on an external drive I don’t care about.
So in my dual boot setup Linux messes up the dedicated audio card so bad it not only sounds like ass on Linux but it somehow garbles Windows audio until I power cycle the entire thing. It is entirely possible it does permanent damage to the hardware. Some of the electrical clicks you hear from it are genuinely concerning.
Had to plug in Linux audio via the motherboard audio and use different sources for each OS to work around it.
Does change how the meme reads to me.
Also, maaaan does Linux need to completely redo its audio systems from the ground up. It’s so bad that saying that isn’t even that controversial, which is insane in these circles.
What distro? What sound card?
You might try something new that runs pipewire by default, if you haven’t already. But I might also know of some specific quirks with specific cards.
We’re not doing this. People in the Linux community are so tweaked by years of bad support that they assume every complaint is a call for help.
It is not.
I know what’s broken, I know why, I know it’s not easily fixable, I have a workaround. This is not a tech support thread.
I don’t need information from users more savvy than me, I need the bad sound firmware they’re loading in lieu of specific support for my audio card to be fixed, or even better, replaced by actual specifically supported firmware so my card works. In the meantime, crappy on-board audio and wasting money on hardware I’m not using it is.
That shouldn’t be possible as the hardware gets reinitialized on boot
You would friggin’ think.
And yet.
Turns out a DAC is a fairly complicated and self-sufficient bundle of software and hardcore electrical circuitry, so apparently you can mess it up so badly it will remain broken across soft reboots. Who knew!
From the ground up has been done at least once, but given there are multiple layers of interface and driver, it might not be at the right level for whatever hardware you have.
I’m thinking specifically of how pipewire recently came along and basically took over the functions previously provided by pulseaudio, to the point of pretending to be Pulse where necessary so that things don’t break.
FWIW, I recently learned that my motherboard has features that weren’t unlocked by default in my distro. Not related to sound, mind you, but nonetheless, I’ve gained access to that now. It required loading an extra kernel module. The same might be required to get the best out of your sound card.
Nah, it’s just not supported. Or rather, it’s poorly supported so it sounds worse than in Windows and it just doesn’t want to properly dual boot without a power cycle. Honestly, I haven’t checked if the soft reboot issue has been reported. Pretty sure it hasn’t. I could be nice and go find where to file a bug, but I haven’t gotten around to it and, frankly, there are enough other problems with this particular setup that nobody is fixing and are getting dismissed with “it’s the manufacturer’s fault” that I’m not particularly inclined to go out of my way.
We don’t talk enough about how spotty new motherboard support is for Linux, either. At least sound is a recurring talking point. But yeah, newer motherboards often don’t pick up networking and audio hardware out of the box and need a lot of troubleshooting. Everybody is so proud of how well Linux revitalizes old laptops but nobody likes to talk about how that’s because they’re old, and newer stuff may not work well or at all. Early adopting hardware platforms on Linux can be a “going on an adventure” Hobbit meme experience.
And you’re right that it’s not so much about audio getting reingeneered again as it getting done right. I just don’t know that the current patchwork barely holding together can be salvaged by bolting more pieces on top. Every time Linux needs to replace something this way it’s a years-long argument between nerds and a whole damn mess (see Wayland still being litigated, somehow). Audio never gets enough attention anywhere and I have very low trust that a new attempt wouldn’t end up in the same mess they have now, at least for a long while. It extra sucks because Windows audio used to be kinda bad, but now it’s… kinda not? So being a dual-booter it’s just an extra reason to make that choice of which boot option to pick from the menu.
When i still had a dual boot on my main PC, everytime I went into Windows and back into Linux, I’d have to replug my drawing tablet for it to work properly. Even after a complete shutdown. I have no clue what caused that.
Probably Windows not actually shutting down.
Today I watched A Titus video about customizing his terminal to make it less ugly. And to install new fonts he had to type some weird commands to find where those files were stored and some other alien commands to get them installed.
Do you know what I don’t have to do in windows to get a font installed ? None of that. Open the file like normal people do and click install. No wizardry spells to learn
doesn’t KDE just let you double-click the TTFs and install them that way?
Gnome works like that too- double click on the TTF/OTF and you get a window with a preview of the font and an install button.
Why would you watch a terminal video if you’re afraid of it?
Curiosity
Then he did it because he wanted to, not because he had to. You can just double-click the fonts in your file manager and preview/install the font if you’re using a typical distro/desktop environment.
Edit: he likes to customise his environment to hell afaik, so he probably has a non-standard setup
