Lots of venture capital money behind it. I wonder how quickly the enshitification will begin.
Someone will have to let me know because I’m not wasting my time there. I’m going to keep wasting my time here. It’s a fantastic waste of time
I wonder how quickly the enshitification will begin.
Lots of venture capital money behind it.
It already began.
I dug Digg once upon a time. When they tried to undermine the power users, I found Reddit. Then Reddit enshittified. Now I got Lemmy. It’s where I want to be. No company behind it, milking the users.
Yep, I’m ready to read the news that this platform surpassed the user base of Lemmy on the first day and never looked back. And I am ready to not be bothered by it.
Good on them for any pain they inflict on reddit. And I do hope the fediverse takes over the global media landscape because that is better for humanity than corpo-governmental gatekeepers. But if Lemmy’s user base just hangs around in the tens of thousands rather than the tens of millions, I am content.
I disagree about being content with a small user base, I want more niche communities beyond News/Politics, Linux/FOSS, and memes.
I have mixed feelings.
On one hand, agreed @ wanting more variety in communities.
OTOH, Lemmy already has too much fucking politics. I don’t want whatever’s infecting reddit to become even MORE prevalent here. shudder
How much worse could it really become in terms of politics? It already feels like 60% of posts are politics, and jumps to 90% if you include the “Windows/Google/AI bad, use Linux/Librewolf/Selfhost” posts.
Well, I block posters and communities pretty quickly when I see politics. I already feel like I have to add to that list way too much. Worse would be “I can’t even click Next without needing to block another one”.
I hate the idea of “blocking” a user or community, to me I hear “block” and imagine a user who harasses me or posts actual spam, whereas someone who comments politics a lot might also comment non-political stuff I’d like to see, or if an event is big enough I could see cross posts in more niche communities. I wish there was a “show me less of this on the front page” option.
Yeah, I get that, like blocking should be an extreme step?
But for me it’s kind of a defensive measure. I feel political-flooded basically all the time online. There’s no respite, so I have to carve out what sanity I can.
Be the change you want to see in the world
Sorry for being off topic (from the article), but I have a little community of translators on lemmy.ca if you’re interested in niche communities.
What? Where? Nice!
Oh I want those things too. The current size of Lemmy is not my ideal. It’s just really really nice in its current form for me as a unique little nerdy place hidden in plain sight from what most of the internet has become.
It was more the juxtaposition of how the world needs all these open technologies that people band together to create for the good of all, buuuuut if nobody notices this particular one then that will serve my personal interests. And to be clear I’m not hoping for that or trying to hold it back. Just pointing it out. :)
Pre-digg immigration OG reddit user here. The enshittification of reddit started when digg users joined en masse and flooded the site with advice animal memes and f7u13 macros.
My timeline was
Fark>Slashdot>Digg>Reddit>Lemmy
I don’t allow loops.
Meh, it’s still corpo space.
Sounds like an unholy wedding of AI and privacy nightmare to me.
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I don’t know man, but Lemmy and the Fediverse seems to be a more mature ecosystem than that. Digg just looks like a stripped-down version of Reddit with no specific feature
Trust me, bro, this time’lo be different, this VC-funded social network isn’t going to enshittify, AI is going to fight bots, just give me all your data bro
If I ever find myself there I’ll just digg my way back to Lemmy
Who? I thought they were dead
“We are good to users, there is absolutely not a 2nd step here that we’ve done before”
Doesn’t look good. People are creating communities about the popular communities on reddit just to look good but do not post anything on them
I actually kept going to Digg for a long, long time after it became essentially useless. I guess it was just part of my daily website routine.
As soon as I found out about the ownership change and what they were doing I said “so long” and have no intention of ever going there.
The only Reddit alt I need is Lemmy.
Anything that takes users away from Reddit, and forces Reddit to compete, is a plus for me.
Being owned by venture capitalists is pretty much an assurance that they’ll turn it to shit as much as they can get away with. The entire reason people abandoned digg for reddit in the first place was because it was selling out to ad space and shill accounts and manipulation. The venture capitalists will want big returns on their investments.
Competition is good. Also the less data Reddit has, the slower A.I. models can be trained.
reddit is partially being propped up by google. most of thier AI comes from google, and thier moderation, BOT DETECTION,etc.
That’s a fair point. Reddit has been openly hostile to its own users these past several years. It might help moderate that to have another alternative on the table, even if it too is a soulless corporate enterprise.
it got worst within the last year. they ban new users and old inactive accounts extremely fast. of course you can say its due to bots using same methods, this hasnt stopped bots in any case at all. its just targetting lowest hanging fruits.
This is quite toxic attitude. You should focus on what’s good for you - not what’s bad for someone else.
Monopolies are bad for everyone except their CEO and stockholders.
Eh, what’s bad for capitalists is what’s good for the rest of us
I don’t agree. We’re not talking about a person or a charity. We’re talking about a VC-backed company. They can fuck off and die, and it’s not toxic – it’s just common sense.
But two corporate entities competing are better than one secure in it’s market share. Anyone with any sense would reject both for a fediverse option if it could be made to work well enough obviously but still.
Only marginally… maybe. Duopolies are still really shitty for consumers and that’s the best outcome to this. Significantly better would be if more people would realise what made internet amazing in the beginning and that logical consequences from that are that public spaces in the internet where the content comes from the people should be owned by the people.
But competition IS good for me.
If people start migrating to better experience and better communities, they’re going to have to step up to stop the bleeding.
Reddit can get away with making terrible user experiences and killing 3rd party solutions because no alternative has lured enough of their base away.
Silly question. Is Reddit still banning comments that say Lemmy?
I don’t have an account.
Dunny. I’ve mentioned it a few times. I don’t think they’re still removing them but I bet they are still suppressing them
I heard that was highly community-dependent - the more high-profile a community the more likely for it to be removed.
Idk, but now that you mention iy, I got a 2nd violation, for threatening violence that did not do so or even come close, to the point I think it was ad hoc in bad faith, to say for other reasons. I did mention lemmy not long before.
If they are advertising on Digg may work.
I’d like to see this place just a bit better
I have a link to my Lemmy profile on my Reddit profile and not even shadowbanned 🤷
they dont care about links as much as if you commented with the links in your posts. and also if your account is old and active enough they are less likely to “ban you”
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Idk, I think there are also legitimate arguments for piefed !
We can have both, thats allowed :)
(That was the point of my comment 😊)
What’s piefed? I looked at it and mostly saw lemmy instances.
It’s an alternative to Lemmy with some different features. Since it uses the same protocol under the hood, its instances federate with Lemmy. There’s more info on the differences here.
It’s like Lemmy, but it has more features because the devs aren’t tankies and they actually do work instead of just denying genocides all day
Tankie you say
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real ICE vehicles are unmarked
Are there any plans to improve Piefed’s RSS feeds? I primarily browse through Thunderbird, and Lemmy’s feeds are a lot more content-rich
Sounds like a good question for @rimu@piefed.social
Haven’t tried piefed so I can’t say.
Such as?
This is just off the top of my head.
Grouping comments of the same posts posted on different comms for one.
Keyword filtering to fade or outright block.
Idk if filtering is in Lemmy, but grouping comments definitely isn’t.
I love the grouped comments. I scroll through the comments on once instance, then I reach the next one and you can genuinely see the shift in priorities between communities. It’s pretty cool
To add to the other comment, the fucking blocking functionality just works.
On Lemmy it’s half assed so you can’t completely defed/block:
- If someone crossposts it to another instance it appears on the feed
- If you (as a normal user) block an instance you still see the crossposts and their users
On piefed you have many block options and they just work.
Piefed and Lemmy are basically the same thing on different websites
They’re all in the same network
Doesn’t piefed have that controversial hardcoded blocklist? I’ve heard that meme communities and similar are filtered out using hardcoded keywords matched aganst community name.
Why hardcode this??? Imposing your preferences on everyone seems like a bad idea.
I could go for a text only version of this
That’s what Usenet was.
yeah it was pretty good I was there
I miss it. SLRN and proper score file made it the best information tool on the internet back in the day.
That would be nice. It can probably be done by blocking images at the browser level. Wouldn’t be the same as a text only site though.
I’m starting to agree. Was a bit quiet and every other post oddly seemed to be about Linux when I first signed up, but now I really like it. I’ve decided to stay.
I felt this place was a ghost town when I first started - maybe 10 posts a day. Now, there is plenty to read. Partly due to me finding more communities and overall more people here.
lemmy certainly scratches the doomer/black pill/commie itch in everyone
