Gotta support Amazon somehow.
Fireside chats are so back
If this guy runs for president we will have many bots going “oh yeah what about that one time he hesitated to call it a genocide”. Don’t get me wrong it is %100 a genocide but equating someone with Trump because of this would be ridiculous, he is one of the most progressive democrats around which makes for a nice jumping board.
He can’t, he was not born in the USA
He eats Dijon mustard!
He was born in Uganda so he can’t run for president. No worries there.
We have a rapist, thief, traitor, and war criminal in the oval office. There are many immigrants who have more honor, integrity, and intelligence than Agent “Krasnov” Orange.
Sticking to rules, when the Grand Old Pedophile party uses them selectively, is a fool’s game. We must either elect Mamdani or AOC, preferably both, into top offices.
If the GOP protests? Punch them, and ignore their opinion. Because they don’t give a shit about law nor decency, and should face the consequences of breaching the social contract.
plus had his slovenian “prostitute” get here on a faux genius visa/ citizenship.
I kind of think blatantly violating the constitution is a good way to not get put on any ballots in the USA. Like the states board of elections would never go along with that. That’s silly talk.
Plenty of politicians that are deserving of the presidency exist aside from AOC.
dang it I could almost see the bots
That’s because you’re accustomed to imagining bots whenever you see opposition to genocide.
you haven’t even read my previous msg did you? oh wait judging by the single downvote on each post you did. I suppose you just did not want to process it in that case.
Either of his parents American citizens when he was born?
Not that I’m aware of. Anyway safe bet he’s never going to be vp or president.
I personally don’t foresee this being that good of an idea. I foresee disinformation bots, porn link bots, and hate comments forcibly flooding the chat to ensure nothing actually happens, with not enough moderators to deal with it all. That, and twitch refusing to help moderate and instead shutting the account down in an attempt to silence him for big daddy Baldo.
Large twitch chats definitely can be constructive and well moderated, and the mayors office definitely has the resources to do that. I’m cautiously optimistic
its not like traditional MSM is going to give him a fair light, where the propaganda is even worst. hes targeting his audience, young gen-z people and maybe some milleneals. hes villified by both old guard DNC and the gop.
He is trying to be the next FDR with modernized fireside chats, and I am vibing with it.
Yup. Mamdani is teaching the modern left how to spread the message. There is a lot of disdain from the left on social media. A lot of us are smart enough to recognise that socmed is vapid and shallow. But we’re not too bright to recognise that that is where people are at these days, no matter how dumb socmed is. That’s why the often criticism of the left is the poor messaging. Now I understand what that criticism mean.
Social media is the new plaza, like how radio, cinema and TV were during FDR’s time. As a matter of fact, the Nazis also recognised the potential power of radio. One of their early policies is to buy everyone a radio; so that the Nazis could control information. This is not different from today in which oligarchs and the far right also recognised the potential of socmed as a tool for control.
its the oldguard dnc that doesnt know how to reach thier voters, they stuck to the traditional MSM where everything is curated and controlled.
Ignoring social media has been the biggest mistake of the left across the world. In my home country, an objectively better and progressive candidate was outvoted by the son of an ex-dictator by a landslide, because the said candidate is an old school progressive who still does the old-fashioned way of convincing voters, by going door to door and relying on legacy media, instead of presenting a brand of herself in social media like Mamdani does. That’s when I realised “yup, social media is now where the frontline is, whether we like it or not.”
Been waiting for such a long time for a politician to do this. NYC did an amazing job at electing him.
Castro used to do it.
It started as anyone could call.
Then it was selected callers and their ore screened questions
Then it was his team calling and asking the right questions
Then he stopped.
Cool, but it’d be a lot cooler if it wasn’t on Twitch.
E: really depressing to see that even people on the Threadiverse don’t understand Big Tech problems and how they impact our daily lives, or can even fathom the idea of anyone making a difference.
What? They are supposed to use some small unknown platform? Like how do you expect people to be able to access something if they don’t know that it exists
He…tells them? The same way people access his Twitch livestream without knowing it exists. The same way we are finding out right now.
He’s been office for 5 months! Why isn’t everything perfect? Ffs, we have a guy in the white house trying to burn the world down so he can make a buck. Put your ire towards trump, but your thoughtful criticism towards Mamdani.
He’s been office for 5 months
What does that even mean? At what point in his office should he start transitioning to free platforms, and why?
Why isn’t everything perfect?
That’s just a slightly loaded question…
we have a guy in the white house trying to burn the world down
So…we shouldn’t concern ourselves with literally anything else?
Guess who gave a $28M bribe to The Guy In The White House Trying To Burn The World Down? The owner of Twitch.
He’s going where the working people are. That’s a people problem, honestly.
Things will continue to stay the same until someone has the courage to change it. Mamdani is an incredibly influential person and has a lot of power to change the status quo.
Agreed, but imo the world (and new york) has bigger problems than streaming platforms 😅 Not sure if Mamdani is the vehicle for that kind of change
imo the world (and new york) has bigger problems than streaming platforms
You’re not listening. “Streaming platforms” are not the problem. Big Tech is the problem. And its a massive one that people may or may not understand completely. Streaming on Twitch is not just not solving that problem, its actively contributing to it. I figured the people here would know better but I suppose there’s not even any hope for that.
Not sure if Mamdani is the vehicle for that kind of change
Why can’t he be?
Many young people are on Twitch. You go where the people are first, then go where you want them to follow. You have to interact with society to change it.
then go where you want them to follow
When does he do this part?
Maybe no longer time period than 5 months huh?
Sometime after an amount of these, I don’t have foresight.
Why can’t he be?
Because he has an actual job, and that isn’t part of it
Okay but livestreaming on Twitch is part of his job?
Communicating with the public is part of his job.
“Streaming platforms” are not the problem. Big Tech is the problem.
For New Yorkers? He’s talking directly to people who he is responsible for. Maybe you should be educating those people on the impact of big tech like Amazon owning Twitch. They’re worried about grocery prices and getting to work on time so they don’t get fired and lose their only source of healthcare. They’re dealing with unfair labor laws and apparently a horrible landlord regime. I support any effort you make towards that kind of advocacy, but you are up against stiff competition for their attention, and therefore his.
I am aware of the issue. I don’t use Twitch. I will not watch Mamdani on Twitch. I am just letting you know, you need to talk to lawmakers about this and pressure them. This guy’s job is literally to listen to his constituents. Apparently, his constituents are speaking on Twitch. Amazon owns The Washington Post, Amazon TV, MGM, and Twitch. This is not good. Write your representatives and keep spreading awareness.
Why can’t he be?
Not saying he can’t. I’m saying whether or not he is. He’s the Mayor of New York City, not a senator or any other kind of law maker. It’s like saying “why didn’t Obama do medicare for all?” Well did congress propose that? He signs laws, not write them. That is the job of a lawmaker. Mayors and all other offices of governing are not offices of lawmaking unless your name is Trump apparently.
For New Yorkers?
For literally everyone.
Maybe you should be educating those people on the impact of big tech like Amazon owning Twitch
Education is not the problem. Everyone knows, they just don’t care. What is needed is influence and courage. He has the former.
They’re worried about grocery prices and getting to work on time so they don’t get fired and lose their only source of healthcare.
That’s exactly the problem that he’s contributing to. We have these problems because we vote for fucking horrendous politicians that are promoted and funded by Big Tech billionaires. This isn’t a secret. They were all photographed sitting at Trump’s inauguration, and all “donated” to and bribed him. These are all the people that Mamdani purports to oppose, but he’s actually actively supporting them when streaming on Bozos TV.
Not saying he can’t. I’m saying whether or not he is.
We already know he is not. That is not the conversation I am having.
He’s the Mayor of New York City, not a senator or any other kind of law maker.
Why are we talking about making laws? No one is asking him to make laws.
There are many problems not caused by big tech.
Everyone knows
Disagree. My mom doesn’t. Terminally online people do.
Mamdani isn’t contributing to an issue by using Twitch. You fail to understand that there is no such thing as ethical consumption under capitalism. Not saying don’t boycott, but you are up against forces bigger than Mamdani and your issues are not a single individual, yet you project them onto individuals. A tell-tale sign of a young person who wants change but doesn’t know where to direct it.
You aren’t having a conversation, you’re just trying to get mad at Mamdani for using Twitch when you didn’t want him to. That’s allowed, but him doing his fucking job is not the issue here, despite it being on Twitch.
We’re talking about making laws because that’s the solution to your problem.
Where else, Kick?
OnlyZohrans.
He could livestream to multiple platforms.
Personally I’d enjoy a stream to any federated/open source platform like peertube.
The series will also be available live on YouTube, TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, X, and Bluesky.
Would it kill Lemmies to read the article
Still only corporate platforms unfortunately.
This feels a little like a “take this great thing and find something to complain about”.
I don’t think you’re recognizing the challenges of live streaming to thousands of people at once. This would destroy any existing Peertube instance, and there is no reason for NY to set up their own when most of the population is elsewhere. I’m all for federation, but the infrastructure isn’t there for this.
I’ll personally choose to celebrate when leaders do something great instead of nitpicking their platform choices.
I’m not even complaining, just pointing out the obvious, even though I understand why it’s the way it is.
As the other commenter said in a reply to this, people are quick to complain about a better solution just because it isn’t perfect. But I’m not complaining because frankly I don’t care that much.
I’m not from NYC, I’m not from the USA and I’m not even from that continent.
It’s cool Zohran won the election, you guys should celebrate his feats and criticise his faults.
This feels a little like a “take this great thing and find something to complain about”.
the “perfect” is the enemy of “good enough”
Would it kill Lemmies to read the article
Yeah, both users would enjoy the stream.
I mean ideally he would put it on his own website or something. Owncast?
You have an astronomically high bar for the average normie
He’s not a “normie”, he’s a politician. One who purports to be different from his colleagues, and opposes billionaires.
It is not just him, but also the people he is trying to reach. Even if he gets assistance & the resources to set up an independent platform for this, he still has to get people to use it - which is a much higher bar to meet.
That is true but its also extremely important. And will never happen until someone has the influence and the courage to make it happen. He definitely has the former.
That sounds like a moderation nightmare, engagement nightmare or both. Twitch is a big established platform that makes it easy to reach people. It’s nor great but it will serve his purpose better than sacrificing the message for principle.
That sounds like a moderation nightmare
Huh? What kind of moderation do you think is happening on Twitch?
Twitch is a big established platform
Yes, that’s the problem.
it will serve his purpose better than sacrificing the message for principle.
The principle is the message.
Your argument is completely psychotic.
Gonna send emails? No way, 90% of people use Gmail and you shouldn’t give Google traffic.
Stand up your own website? Well it better not be in AWS, GCP or Azure. You’re still gonna need DDOS protection and the ability to scale to hundreds of thousands of users for this event so I hope you have the money to build your own datacenter. But be sure you’re making your own ethical internet backbone. Don’t want your money going to Verizon or Sprint.
Maybe thats all a little too complicated so we’ll need to go analog. But have you ever mailed a letter? USPS is run by fascists, gotta do better. Get on a bike (can’t have those emissions!) and hand deliver your 20k political zines. But don’t put it in their mailboxes, that’s reinforcing the status quo.
Your argument is completely psychotic.
Psychotic is looking at the problem we have with Big Tech and saying “yes, this is fine!”
Gonna send emails? No way, 90% of people use Gmail and you shouldn’t give Google traffic.
WTF are you talking about? You realize there are thousands of email platforms not owned by Big Tech? You could even host your own. You just chose the worst example imaginable, because email itself is free and federated.
Well it better not be in AWS, GCP or Azure.
Sure, why not? Again, there are thousands of alternatives. You can even host it on your own hardware.
I hope you have the money to build your own datacenter.
LOL you don’t need a “datacenter”.
But have you ever mailed a letter? USPS is run by fascists
I don’t ever use mail for anything that I can possibly avoid. Let me tell you about this thing called email…
Get on a bike (can’t have those emissions!) and hand deliver your 20k political zines.
You say that like FedEx, DHL, UPS, etc. don’t exist.
You’re just trying real hard to be wrong.
psychosis
noun
psy·cho·sis sī-ˈkō-səs:
serious mental illness characterized by defective or lost contact with reality often with hallucinations or delusions
Example:
looking at the problem we have with Big Tech and saying “yes, this is fine!”
Absolutely nobody here is doing that. Nobody in this entire comment section has said anything close to that. Car dependant infrastructure and fossil fuels are bad but you still have to get in your car and go to work if you want to not die.
You realize there are thousands of email platforms not owned by Big Tech? You could even host your own.
Gmail is 30% of global email traffic. It doesn’t matter what platform I choose, my message is still going to end up in someone’s Gmail inbox and stolen by AI.
If I was taking that problem seriously I would at least cut out Apple, Gmail and Microsoft domains and automatically lose 84% of my mailing list. Why don’t you care about that?
Sure, why not? Again, there are thousands of alternatives. You can even host it on your own hardware.
Why not should be obvious: the NYC Mayor’s office isn’t in the market of building, hosting, operating or managing social media platforms. Full stop. That takes money, time, marketing and expertise and provides zero value to his constituents beyond performative fuzzy feelings.
If you’re so smart and righteous what’s stopping you from building your own platform for these politicians? Why the fuck should Mamdani have to do it? And make sure to build up 240 million MAU while you’re at it, this has to compete with Twitch’s reach.
LOL you don’t need a “datacenter”.
Well shit somebody call up Amazon and let them know! This genius has figured out a way to host an interactive live streaming service scalable to millions of simultaneous users from his closet.
Let me tell you about this thing called email…
See my comments above, you’re sacrificing your own privacy and feeling sanctimonious about it. Snail mail has far stronger legal and physical protections than your email.
You say that like FedEx, DHL, UPS, etc. don’t exist.
Lmfao you’re here to shit on Big Tech but don’t care about these corporate vultures?
Bro try trolling a little bit harder.
Is he going to replace twitch and YouTube altogether with his own website? No. So this would just create friction for users, but not give anyone an option for moving off big tech streaming platforms
Is he going to replace twitch and YouTube altogether with his own website? No.
What he is going to do and what he could do are 2 different discussions.
but not give anyone an option for moving off big tech streaming platforms
Again, he certainly could, very easily.
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Because Twitch is owned by a tech oligopolist. One of a handful actively running this country into the ground. The one who paid Melania $28M to make a movie that no one wanted. (AKA a bribe). The one who’s responsible for killing more small businesses than anyone else, ever? I mean I could go on…
Well, fuck, I guess that means Democrats can no longer go on television, either, since most of those networks are also owned by nazis.
I guess we have to give up because this choad here doesn’t want to live in reality.
Good news, they don’t have to.
The personal attacks are not called for.
Sure they are.
The world is fucked up BECAUSE we stopped telling stupid people that their ideas are stupid.
I’ve never felt more strongly towards a comment before. Stupid people really are getting increasingly brazen. Enough is enough, tbh.
You can point out why my ideas are bad without being uncivil. Now you’re just being a dick. And for what? The crime of suggesting that someone might embrace free platforms? That’s fucked, my guy.
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so name a social media company that is not shit.
Owncast. Piefed. Peertube. Mastodon. etc. etc. etc.
If you’re trying to reach people, you need to go where they are.
“Where they are” is actively being used to manipulate and control them. As long as he keeps “meeting people where they are”, that’s where they will remain, and he is actively contributing to perpetuating that. Change means taking them somewhere else.
They will remain there until content creators they regularly watch and enjoy start moving. Mamdani is not that. No one is going to be creating a twitch account just to watch this, nor would they do it for some much smaller platform they’ve never heard of. Mamdani is not the one that will get people to move to new platforms, at least, not before he gets them more interested in the first place. Young people like him specifically because he reaches out to them on a personal level on platforms they actually use.
I would be happily surprised to learn that any of those sites could actually support the traffic this generated
These are not sites, they’re software. Much like Lemmy. They can support as much traffic as you build them to support.
In an ideal world there would be federal servers set up, and every public servant would be entitled to an account.
E: who is downvoting me for stating facts?
Hope he’s doing a world tour after he’s done with NYC :)
That usually how you keep the pyramids running. You offload debt to the larger party (the state) and suspend pension contributions to the people, and say taxing the rich balanced the budget.
The next move is to become governor, and then stop state pension contributions, and offload debt to the federal government, and say taxing the rich solved this issue.
Then run for president. The plan will work for 4-8 years and when you leave an entire generation with no retirements and the debt gets passed to the next generation, you can blame the next guy!
Oh you sweet, stupid child.
I mean that’s what he already is doing
So that debt the state is paying for…why do you think NYC had it in the first place?
Even with this “offloaded debt,” NYC citizens receive less for their tax dollars than the rest of the state
Oh i get it, but the 12 billion he saved was 11.5 billion of can kicking down the road.
As if govs aren’t in stupidly unreasonable amounts of debt already by spending money on corporate welfare and death machines. And corruption. Let them have a small treat.
i am so tired my glasses are starting to fail me and i read:
Major Zohran Mamdani is going to live (short i) on twitch in new streaming series.
so i pictured a netflix show where he lives on twitch 24/7 in a big brother type living room.
so i pictured a netflix show where he lives on twitch 24/7 in a big brother type living room.
This will 100% go off the rails with people pushing their own agendas, or purchased to push an agenda.
The mainstream press, being owned by the mega wealthy, hasn’t exactly been platforming and fair in its reporting of left wing candidates in general. This has now morphed to a strategy by left wind politicians to go directly to their voters on social media. Zack Polensky, the Green party leader in the UK, has drastically improved his parties standing simply by delivering their policies directly on Twitter and other social media. This is quite likely to become the way that left wing politicians operate in the near future. They potentially seek to gain leverage to fairer representation and presence in mainstream media, although that might not even matter given the mass exodus and distrust of the people of those old platforms.
But twitch is owned by Amazon and frankly they can and do moderate Twitch streams.
This is not supposed to be a discouragement of politicians connecting with the public via any means necessary.
I just want to point out the flawed logic of saying news media is owned by billionaires so it can’t be trusted, but twitch, also owned by a billionaire can somehow be trusted.
it serves 2 purposes reaching the gen-z pop, if amazon decides to block him, then the viewers/audiences will know and it will cause a streisand effect.
I think this cuts two ways.
- If anything goes wrong with this stream at all, whether it’s Amazon’s fault or not, it will be perceived as if they sabotaged it by the people who support him.
- If nothing goes wrong then we have the same problem we had with ByteDance and Tik Tok, where the perception is that the platform is a "bastion of free speech that people who support him put more trust in. We saw how this went with Tik Tok. Where people were convinced that it was censoring them less and promoting more liberal content when in fact we know from recent news articles that this is not in fact the case.
Neither of these things should make twitch a good platform for this type of thing, but it does happen to be what is available and well known.
They aren’t yet putting up barriers since their sole purpose is people connecting to each other. There is every chance they do move to restricting access but I think it would be the death of Twitch and certainly Twitter if they started doing so. Social media doesn’t require us to trust some group of people to choose our content for us and as such is a lot less prone to that bias and billionaire control. That isn’t to say the billionaires don’t have an effect, on Twitter what people are exposed to by the algorithm is very intentional and controlled as is the front page roll on Twitch, but unlike mainstream media its still possiblr to see and connect with the unfavoured content and grass roots movements can still form. I would prefer this was all on the fediverse but its not where the people are yet.
I use twitch. It doesn’t take much at all to get a ban of any kind. I’ve seen twitch streamers get banned mid stream. I think this stream in particular is likely to attract a lot of people who disagree with his political leanings and want to troll. It’ll be heavily modded and there are likely to be topics that will not be discussed because they’re problematic enough that a troll could use twitch’s own guidelines against the stream.
I hope there will be an army of mods, as well, to deal with the absolute tsunami of slurs that will be thrown at him.
“Chat, the billionaires are acting super sus while hungry New Yorkers are in need of a carry. So let’s flip the script. Spend your Bezos bucks here and you’ll help the needy. Let’s goooo!!!”
Honestly, if MAMDANI named his twitch channel currency “bezos bucks”, I would be very confused. But right now he’s earned enough good faith that I’d trust his vision.
Amazon prime gives you a “free” twitch sub, thus the bezos bucks.
…I completely forgot that amazon owns twitch.
We really should stop letting companies buy each other. In fact we should split the big ones up.
Bruh is going to debate mog city council
Now another platform he can continue to ignore trans people on while he does nothing about Langone and Sinai.
Wahhh he’s not perfect wahhh he’s not doing literally everything all at once wahhhh.
Grow up. He’s doing more for actual people than just about anyone else I can think of in recent memory. Take your love for being negative and upset somewhere else.
he is already doing the landlord enforcement, wage enforcement, and economic stuff he promised, though
I have never been on, nor have I any desire to ever watch content on, Twitch. But I’m glad a politician is using media from a younger generation þan þe traditional ones, and þat at least it isn’t a FANG platform. Maybe someday þey’ll start gracing whatever Fediverse descendant is around.
Twitch is owned by Amazon
Bummer.
The series will also be available live on YouTube, TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, X, and Bluesky.
Some are FAANG.
btw, do you typeout each thorn or you have an extension or something doing it automatically?
Why not <compose>,<t>,<h>?
Exactly. Alþough, on mobile it’s just a popup secondary character on my keyboard.
He’s also streaming on Bluesky
